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Subject: [Leica] difference between documentarian and documented
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:22:23 -0500
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Thanks Vince. It is truly one of the neglected cities of the United States 
these days. I came here in 1974 to attend Tulane, and we were sort of one of 
the darlings of American cities in those days. We didn't practice the 
bigotry of other deep south cities in the 1960's, and everyone seemed to get 
along very well. But the storm really turned us into a third world country 
for a while, and a string of very corrupt politicians has brought the 
quality of life here to very low levels. I incurred the wrath of the local 
police after I was interviewed the day after a man walking his dog was shot 
to death on my block (in full view of a non-working crime camera). When Fox 
News asked why I didn't call the police when I heard him being shot (at 8:03 
PM), I told them the truth...that the police don't respond to 911 calls and 
haven't for years (it would mean having to write a report afterwards). I had 
called 911 about 5 times in the 1990s after shootings in the neighborhood, 
and not once did an officer respond. So I armed myself. Well, after that Fox 
report aired on TV and the radio over several days, the police were all over 
this neighborhood with blue lights flashing to show that they were around. 
No murders since then. It's a shame that they had to be embarrassed into 
action. I'm thankful that I have been shot...by someone.

Jeffery


On Mar 20, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:

> Jeffery a friend of mine moved to New Orleans to teach two years ago (at
> Tulane where incarceration of students might be commendable but doesn't
> happen much, I don' t think) and midway through his first year he called me
> one day and said the place made him think of me because it was just like 
> New
> York in the 1970s. Every new reply of yours enlivens that sense of it now,
> after the deluge. It was horrible, what happened, all that loss and
> displacement and pain; and the political neglect was criminal, obviously,
> and seems to continue.  But from these days I suspect will arise a very 
> rich
> creative period.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Jeffery Smith <jsmith342 at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> That would be the case in our city if any of our crime cameras worked. As
>> far as I know, none of them do and never have. Big Brother isn't watching
>> us.
>> 
>> Jeffery
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Steve Barbour wrote:
>> 
>>> People in public, are seen in public and videotaped in public many
>> thousands of times every day, without their permission.
>>> 
>>> What is different about having a still photo shot?
>>> 
>>> If for any reason they are that precarious about being seen and
>> photographed without permission, they best stay at home,
>>> 
>>> Steve...
>> 
>> 
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