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Subject: [Leica] Wow, the last word on Bokeh, from Zeiss
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 08:51:38 -0700
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On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:

> Rabs,
> 
> That's what I'm sayin'. You know the history, you don't miss a trick. And 
> as
> I remarked in another thread, if hanging out on the LUG has taught me to
> really worship one lens from a distance, ie seeing the pics but not coming
> close to using or owning it, it's the 75 Summicron ASPH.


is there such a puppy?


> So I'm with you.
> Plus my own aesthetic reaction to pictures causes me not to give a crap
> about bokeh 99 percent of the time. Watching Apocalypse Now Redux with my
> class today, there are moments of ghosting when they're shooting into the
> low sun where you can count the blades on the aperture, easily. It's still
> one of the three or four greatest American films.
> 
> I realize that's a stupid example but it was on my mind....
> 
> Vince
> 
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at 
> rabinergroup.com>wrote:
> 
>>> There is an ecclesiastical position in most diocese of the Roman Catholic
>>> Church called the Censor Librorum. It's this dude's job to determine
>> whether
>>> a text contains any errors of doctrine. "Censor" doesn't mean he (and
>> yeah
>>> it's always a male surprise surprise) cuts anything or prevents anything
>>> from being published it just means he says whether or not the written
>>> material is free of errors of doctrine. (In the middle ages if he didn't
>>> sign off the work would not be suitable for distribution and the author
>> if
>>> he resisted correcting it would probably be burned at the stake but they
>>> didn't have toilets then and now we do; long time ago.)
>>> 
>>> Which means he has to be really good at *catching *errors of doctrine;
>> has
>>> to see the often underlying or imputed doctrinal implications of things.
>>> 
>>> So for this reason I nominate Rabs as the LUG's Censor Librorum. It
>> didn't
>>> even occur to me to relate that passing "asph" comment to the hotly
>> debated
>>> issue of whether the contempo Leica glass is "hard" etc. But of course
>> he's
>>> right -- it was a direct hit.
>> 
>> 
>> You're not reading it in the context of the litany of BS writing on the un
>> Leica like hard or harsh look the aspherics gave when they came out a 
>> dozen
>> years ago.
>> I simply had the 16x20's printed on Ilford double weight fiber paper to
>> prove it wrong.
>> Leica has been on a winning streak with their progression of their lens
>> design. They don't miss much. Its not likely that a bunch of guys buying
>> and
>> selling stuff on gear lists are going to point out the determent of their
>> ways to them.
>> 
>> [Rabs]
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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