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Subject: [Leica] Wow, the last word on Bokeh, from Zeiss
From: passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:15:54 -0400
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I thought the 75 Summicron was an ASPH lens... no?

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>
> > Rabs,
> >
> > That's what I'm sayin'. You know the history, you don't miss a trick. And
> as
> > I remarked in another thread, if hanging out on the LUG has taught me to
> > really worship one lens from a distance, ie seeing the pics but not
> coming
> > close to using or owning it, it's the 75 Summicron ASPH.
>
>
> is there such a puppy?
>
>
> > So I'm with you.
> > Plus my own aesthetic reaction to pictures causes me not to give a crap
> > about bokeh 99 percent of the time. Watching Apocalypse Now Redux with my
> > class today, there are moments of ghosting when they're shooting into the
> > low sun where you can count the blades on the aperture, easily. It's
> still
> > one of the three or four greatest American films.
> >
> > I realize that's a stupid example but it was on my mind....
> >
> > Vince
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >>> There is an ecclesiastical position in most diocese of the Roman
> Catholic
> >>> Church called the Censor Librorum. It's this dude's job to determine
> >> whether
> >>> a text contains any errors of doctrine. "Censor" doesn't mean he (and
> >> yeah
> >>> it's always a male surprise surprise) cuts anything or prevents
> anything
> >>> from being published it just means he says whether or not the written
> >>> material is free of errors of doctrine. (In the middle ages if he
> didn't
> >>> sign off the work would not be suitable for distribution and the author
> >> if
> >>> he resisted correcting it would probably be burned at the stake but
> they
> >>> didn't have toilets then and now we do; long time ago.)
> >>>
> >>> Which means he has to be really good at *catching *errors of doctrine;
> >> has
> >>> to see the often underlying or imputed doctrinal implications of
> things.
> >>>
> >>> So for this reason I nominate Rabs as the LUG's Censor Librorum. It
> >> didn't
> >>> even occur to me to relate that passing "asph" comment to the hotly
> >> debated
> >>> issue of whether the contempo Leica glass is "hard" etc. But of course
> >> he's
> >>> right -- it was a direct hit.
> >>
> >>
> >> You're not reading it in the context of the litany of BS writing on the
> un
> >> Leica like hard or harsh look the aspherics gave when they came out a
> dozen
> >> years ago.
> >> I simply had the 16x20's printed on Ilford double weight fiber paper to
> >> prove it wrong.
> >> Leica has been on a winning streak with their progression of their lens
> >> design. They don't miss much. Its not likely that a bunch of guys buying
> >> and
> >> selling stuff on gear lists are going to point out the determent of
> their
> >> ways to them.
> >>
> >> [Rabs]
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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