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Subject: [Leica] Wow, the last word on Bokeh, from Zeiss
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:20:44 -0700
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:15 AM, Vince Passaro wrote:

> I thought the 75 Summicron was an ASPH lens... no?


you are right, just looked it up...75 summicron ASPH...

I have the 75 Summilux...is there also a 75 summarit?


Steve


> 
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at 
> gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 9:48 PM, Vince Passaro wrote:
>> 
>>> Rabs,
>>> 
>>> That's what I'm sayin'. You know the history, you don't miss a trick. And
>> as
>>> I remarked in another thread, if hanging out on the LUG has taught me to
>>> really worship one lens from a distance, ie seeing the pics but not
>> coming
>>> close to using or owning it, it's the 75 Summicron ASPH.
>> 
>> 
>> is there such a puppy?
>> 
>> 
>>> So I'm with you.
>>> Plus my own aesthetic reaction to pictures causes me not to give a crap
>>> about bokeh 99 percent of the time. Watching Apocalypse Now Redux with my
>>> class today, there are moments of ghosting when they're shooting into the
>>> low sun where you can count the blades on the aperture, easily. It's
>> still
>>> one of the three or four greatest American films.
>>> 
>>> I realize that's a stupid example but it was on my mind....
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> There is an ecclesiastical position in most diocese of the Roman
>> Catholic
>>>>> Church called the Censor Librorum. It's this dude's job to determine
>>>> whether
>>>>> a text contains any errors of doctrine. "Censor" doesn't mean he (and
>>>> yeah
>>>>> it's always a male surprise surprise) cuts anything or prevents
>> anything
>>>>> from being published it just means he says whether or not the written
>>>>> material is free of errors of doctrine. (In the middle ages if he
>> didn't
>>>>> sign off the work would not be suitable for distribution and the author
>>>> if
>>>>> he resisted correcting it would probably be burned at the stake but
>> they
>>>>> didn't have toilets then and now we do; long time ago.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which means he has to be really good at *catching *errors of doctrine;
>>>> has
>>>>> to see the often underlying or imputed doctrinal implications of
>> things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So for this reason I nominate Rabs as the LUG's Censor Librorum. It
>>>> didn't
>>>>> even occur to me to relate that passing "asph" comment to the hotly
>>>> debated
>>>>> issue of whether the contempo Leica glass is "hard" etc. But of course
>>>> he's
>>>>> right -- it was a direct hit.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> You're not reading it in the context of the litany of BS writing on the
>> un
>>>> Leica like hard or harsh look the aspherics gave when they came out a
>> dozen
>>>> years ago.
>>>> I simply had the 16x20's printed on Ilford double weight fiber paper to
>>>> prove it wrong.
>>>> Leica has been on a winning streak with their progression of their lens
>>>> design. They don't miss much. Its not likely that a bunch of guys buying
>>>> and
>>>> selling stuff on gear lists are going to point out the determent of
>> their
>>>> ways to them.
>>>> 
>>>> [Rabs]
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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