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Subject: [Leica] RD-1 now Backup
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Sat Dec 13 19:02:28 2008
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Nathan,
You left out a very big and recurring expense - software. Adobe's programs
dont come cheap - they are a monopoly and charge as such. I just found out
that to upgrade from the CS3 suite to the CS4 suite is only US$770 - the
cost of a very good digital SLR.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo@frozenlight.eu>wrote:

> I am an amateur. I bought my E3 about 11 months ago, and in those 11 months
> I have shot the equivalent of about 20 rolls of film per month with it. 
> Each
> roll would have cost an average of 12 EUR to buy and process, so the 
> savings
> is 240 EUR per month or 2880 EUR per year--far more than I paid for the E3.
>
> The computer I have is an iMac which I bought earlier this year. But I
> would have bought this computer even if I were not taking pictures. I use 
> it
> to surf, to e-mail, to work with Excel, Word, Powerpoint etc. So its cost
> was not incurred as a consequence of photography and so should not be
> counted. The only computer expense that is incremental are a couple of
> external hard drives, since photographs do indeed require lots of storage.
> But even then, and despite the fact that I have not earned one cent with my
> photos, I am still ahead of film, financially speaking.
>
> The M8 I just got will take a bit longer to pay for itself in film savings,
> but it will definitely have done so by the time the 2-year warranty is up.
> And my enjoyment of it is priceless.
>
> Nathan
>
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
> http://www.frozenlight.eu
> http://www.greatpix.eu
> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>
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> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>
>
>
> On Dec 13, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Harrison McClary wrote:
>
>  These arguments I always find a little misleading.  They leave out the
>> fact you should buy external drives for back up, and those in redundancy.
>>  You need a good fast computer or editing your photos will be painful.  
>> You
>> need software to edit those photos.  There is far more cost to digital 
>> than
>> just the camera and all of that HAS to be considered also, IMHO.
>>
>> Alan Magayne-Roshak wrote:
>>
>>> "Alastair Firkin" <afirkin@afirkin.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  Of course if you get 500000 shots from your M8 it will have paid for
>>>> itself even if you are not a pro. Its got a guarantee so shoot for a 
>>>> year
>>>> >and you will have saved quite a bit anyway.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ======================================================================================================
>>> I don't follow.  If (an amateur) doesn't make money using an M8, how can
>>> it be said to have paid for itself?  The money hasn't come back; maybe 
>>> less
>>> will be spent in support than with film, but that doesn't seem to be the
>>> same thing as recovering the initial expense.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior Photographer
>>> UPAA POY 1978
>>> University Information Technology Services
>>> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
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>>>
>>>
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>>
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