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Subject: [Leica] Leica M9 sensor v x 100 series X-Pro Series XT series
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 09:25:38 +0100
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Jayanand,

good point. I should have made that clear.

Peter

On 20/04/2024 03:02, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG wrote:
> Luis,
> 
> This is just a clarification, and nothing more, on what seems to be a
> misunderstanding on your part - both the Fuji X100 series and the X-Pro
> series have both an optical and an electronic viewfinder - either one can
> be selected and used at any time.
> 
> Cheers
> Jayanand
> 
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:36?AM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Thank you very much for your advice, but I think that for me the best will
>> be continue ewith the Leica system, I received good references from 
>> Kolaris
>> and I think this will be my best choice, I?m used after a longtime with
>> Leica M  and I like the optical viewfinder better than an electronic one
>> and I like too the simplicity of the Menu of M, normally I always shoot
>> with manual exposition, I?ve never used an autofocus system, I?m used to
>> work with the old rules.
>>
>> Thank you very much too for giving me information about Red Dot, I?ll ask
>> them if they do this kind of repair, as far as I know only three Workshops
>> offer this service in the World.
>>
>> All the best!
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>> El 18 abr 2024, a les 19:47, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> va
>> escriure:
>>>
>>> Lluis,
>>>
>>> for some reason I missed this -  and I don't understand why.
>>>
>>> I too would suggest a Fuji. I have used the XE-1, XE-2 and X-Pro (I have
>> an X-Pro1). They are all very good machines of their type and the lenses
>> are interchangeable between the three and are a lot cheaper than Leicas,
>> fortunately.
>>>
>>> The XE-1, XE-2 are, with a smallish lens, very much like a mix of a Q
>> and a classic Leica in feel. The X-Pro is a great camera but bigger: more
>> like a later Leica. I travel with either with a an XE-2 with a 18-55 2.8 -
>> 4 zoom on it (Fuji, too).
>>>
>>> They - and the lenses are available for a few hundred Euro
>>>
>>> The downside :-( Image quality is not up to Leica standards because the
>> number of pixels is relatively low (but adequate unless you want to print
>> very large). Unfortunately they don't shoot in B&W which you have to do in
>> post-processing.
>>>
>>> The glass is very good, IMHO, but again not up to Leica standards but it
>> *is* widely available *AND* you can get an M- to X-mount adapter so you 
>> can
>> use your Leica glass if you want to.
>>>
>>> Otherwise great as everyday cameras, but stick with film too!
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 16/04/2024 16:33, Mark Kronquist via LUG wrote:
>>>> Again, because we TTA and 7/A make lenses for the X Pro and XT  have
>> several of each along with an X100f (four) current is the X100 VI (sixth
>> gen ltd edition went for $15,800 on flea bay) no while quite good, no
>> matter what simulation you set the images are not M9 (or 240 10/x or 11/x)
>> quality
>>>>> On Apr 16, 2024, at 8:19 AM, John McMaster via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Fuji X100 (I have the original) images look nothing like that from
>> an M9 (which I still have)....
>>>>>
>>>>> john
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M9 sensor corrossion
>>>>>
>>>>> Lluis,
>>>>> If you are using the M9 for only casual work, the practical solution
>> would
>>>>> be to sell it for whatever you get, and buy a used fixed lens camera of
>>>>> the  Fuji X100 series - whichever iteration suits you - to take its
>> place.
>>>>> I have used a Fuji X100S for this purpose for the last decade with no
>>>>> issues at all - in the last 11 years it has never gone within sniffing
>>>>> distance of a Fuji service centre. It is a fantastic camera with a very
>>>>> good, fastish 35mm equivalent lens, ideal for this purpose - a real,
>> well
>>>>> designed workhorse.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know talking practicality to Leica users is a mugs game, but that is
>> my
>>>>> two bits! ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Jayanand
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2024 at 11:27?PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a problem with my M9: sensor corrossion, I?m looking for a
>> reliable
>>>>>> service for repair it, if possible in Europe, the only I?ve found are:
>>>>>> Kolaris https://kolarivision.com/product/leica_m9_repair/, and
>>>>>> https://maxmax.com in USA, and https://advancedcameraservices.co.uk
>> in
>>>>>> UK. I read generally good references but someones not good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like ask if someone know some references and/or other
>> Companies
>>>>>> that are able to do this work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know that no one replace the sensor.  The repair consist to remove
>> the
>>>>>> glass that is corroded and replace with new sealed glass. I have read
>> that
>>>>>> this operation has risks of contamination and that in the long run the
>>>>>> problem could be reproduced.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I?m not interested to buy another Leica, I only use the M9 for family
>>>>>> records all my other work is with film as you know, the problem is not
>>>>>> rush, at wide apertures and cloning the bad signs I can still work
>> but the
>>>>>> defect is in progress and I guess that soon I shall take a decision.
>> Thank
>>>>>> you very much in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Dr. Peter Dzwig


In reply to: Message from lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor corrossion)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor corrossion)
Message from john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor corrossion)
Message from mak at teleport.com (Mark Kronquist) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor v x 100 series X-Pro Series XT series)
Message from pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor v x 100 series X-Pro Series XT series)
Message from lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor v x 100 series X-Pro Series XT series)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Leica M9 sensor v x 100 series X-Pro Series XT series)