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Subject: [Leica] One way to justify a M10R
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2020 11:16:53 -0500
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Fuji glass unlike Leica or PhaseOne or Hasselblad glass has special normal 
human pricing. NHP
They cost less each than a used Chevy Nova.
Other people than Gates or Bezos can afford them.
So the main money is the camera not the glass. Unless you think you need a 
cluster of them.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 2/7/20, 10:12 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    The question is on semantics John :-)
    
    Amities
    
    Philippe
    
    
    
    > Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 16:10, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a 
?crit :
    > 
    > That is a curious question, the Sony A7Riv, Fuji GFX100 and Phase One 
IQ4150 all have 'the same' sensor in varying sizes.  One thing that you can 
get with larger than FF is 16bit colour....
    > 
    > john
    > 
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] 
On Behalf Of Philippe via LUG
    > Sent: 07 February 2020 15:07
    > To: Leica Users Group
    > Cc: Philippe
    > Subject: Re: [Leica] One way to justify a M10R
    > 
    > Keep to my questions Mark please ;-)
    > 
    > Is a FF M digital a cropped medium format sensor?
    > 
    > Or alternately, is a medium format sensor an enlargment of a full 
frame?
    > 
    > Should the answer to either question be yes, then I might agree that 
an APS-C is cropped. 
    > 
    > Else, and since we use lenses that match the formats, they are all 
full frame, and lose nothing on the edges.
    > 
    > Amities
    > 
    > Philippe
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a 
?crit :
    >> 
    >> Well if a medium format 60x60mm camera has an 80mm lens on it that 
lens is not a telephoto lens like it is on a 35mm camera. Its a standard 
normal for medium format film square!  No cropping comes into play. (The 
diagonal of 60x60mm is pretty close to 80mm.)
    >> Digital medium formats are a tad smaller than film medium formats 
cameras so they cost less than a million dollars. And more people buy them.
    >> But with this gorgeous to die for GFX100 I am overwhelmed by the idea 
of shooting with over a hundred megepixies!
    >> But maybe I should really be overwhelmed by the fact that it's made 
with physically way bigger sized medium format sensor? (33 ? 44mm)
    >> A combination of both would be the smart opinion. I'd both be right!
    >> Costing only $9,999.00 here in New York!  
    >> And you though you'd have to spend ten grand for a medium format 
digital camera!?
    >> -- 
    >> 
    >> Mark William Rabiner
    >> 
    >> ?On 2/7/20, 8:06 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
    >> 
    >>   Would you call use of the GFX100 enlarging ?  ;-)
    >> 
    >>   http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100 
<http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100>
    >> 
    >> 
    >>   Amities
    >> 
    >>   Philippe
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >>> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 14:02, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a 
?crit :
    >>> 
    >>> I don?t know Frank an APS-C sensor gets called a cropped sensor.
    >>> As you think you have new longer lens bringing you in closer but all 
you're doing is cropping.
    >>> 
    >>> 
    > 
    > 
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