[Leica] One way to justify a M10R

[john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)]

That is a curious question, the Sony A7Riv, Fuji GFX100 and Phase One IQ4150 
all have 'the same' sensor in varying sizes.  One thing that you can get 
with larger than FF is 16bit colour....

john

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From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Philippe via LUG
Sent: 07 February 2020 15:07
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Philippe
Subject: Re: [Leica] One way to justify a M10R

Keep to my questions Mark please ;-)

Is a FF M digital a cropped medium format sensor?

Or alternately, is a medium format sensor an enlargment of a full frame?

Should the answer to either question be yes, then I might agree that an 
APS-C is cropped. 

Else, and since we use lenses that match the formats, they are all full 
frame, and lose nothing on the edges.

Amities

Philippe



> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 15:51, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit :
> 
> Well if a medium format 60x60mm camera has an 80mm lens on it that lens is 
> not a telephoto lens like it is on a 35mm camera. Its a standard normal 
> for medium format film square!  No cropping comes into play. (The diagonal 
> of 60x60mm is pretty close to 80mm.)
> Digital medium formats are a tad smaller than film medium formats cameras 
> so they cost less than a million dollars. And more people buy them.
> But with this gorgeous to die for GFX100 I am overwhelmed by the idea of 
> shooting with over a hundred megepixies!
> But maybe I should really be overwhelmed by the fact that it's made with 
> physically way bigger sized medium format sensor? (33 ? 44mm)
> A combination of both would be the smart opinion. I'd both be right!
> Costing only $9,999.00 here in New York!  
> And you though you'd have to spend ten grand for a medium format digital 
> camera!?
> -- 
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> 
> ?On 2/7/20, 8:06 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
> leica-users.org> wrote:
> 
>    Would you call use of the GFX100 enlarging ?  ;-)
> 
>    http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100 
> <http://www.dpreview.com/search/?query=GFX100&terms=GFX100>
> 
> 
>    Amities
> 
>    Philippe
> 
> 
> 
>> Le 7 f?vr. 2020 ? 14:02, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> a ?crit :
>> 
>> I don?t know Frank an APS-C sensor gets called a cropped sensor.
>> As you think you have new longer lens bringing you in closer but all 
>> you're doing is cropping.
>> 
>>