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Subject: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:23:07 -0500
References: <788A1991-9C8A-4A0E-958F-5A5ADC4A2A58@mac.com> <E9E06687-CE3F-47C7-A1EA-5AF5CE2F0D10@gmail.com> <1840F263-A200-43C4-9D2A-431E49964E8B@rabinergroup.com> <CAF8hL-GNDzQ0=nw_+-jB0KxO-iFFd1Zjeka0OxBADg1t-xGTWQ@mail.gmail.com> <LO2P265MB1247C2475DEE527E9558F474F9530@LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <0AAA1B83-386C-4A9A-97C3-B612EB3A62A2@gmail.com> <BB2E4B63-639C-476B-9409-AE1F6E2EE399@rabinergroup.com> <LO2P265MB12475DBCF67B325BA89049E6F9520@LO2P265MB1247.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM> <32C52268-9800-4D37-9827-A8C0B680C6CC@rabinergroup.com>

Also this: (from Adobe)
"
What happens to my photos if I exceed my allotment of cloud storage?
If you run out of storage, your new photos will be saved only on the devices 
they came from. They?ll no longer be backed up to the cloud or synced across 
your devices, and they won?t be automatically tagged for easy keyword search 
within Lightroom. The photos you have already backed up to the cloud will 
still be accessible on all your devices.
If you need more storage, you can upgrade a 20GB plan to 1TB or boost your 
total storage to 2TB, 5TB, or 10TB, starting at US$9.99/month per terabyte. 
To purchase more storage, call 800-585-0774. To upgrade your existing plan, 
sign in to your Adobe ID account (Plans & Products > Manage plan > Switch 
plan). For detailed instructions, see Change your Creative Cloud plan.
"

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 12/19/19, 12:16 PM, "Mark Rabiner" <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote:

    Thanks John and Philippe.
    Here it is!:
    https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop-lightroom-classic.html
    
     
     
    
    -- 
    
    Mark William Rabiner
    Photographer
    
    ?On 12/19/19, 12:10 PM, "LUG on behalf of John McMaster" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> wrote:
    
        Yes of course you can, LR Classic is still held locally (as well as 
having many more functions than LR CC)
        
        John
        
        -----Original Message-----
        From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
        Sent: 19 December 2019 17:02
        To: Leica Users Group
        Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
        
        So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you have 
to use their cloud?
        
        
         
         
        
        -- 
        
        Mark William Rabiner
        Photographer
        
        ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:
        
            LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
            LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss 
essential bells and whistles. 
            I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR CCC.
            
            The offer may vary from country to country though.
            
            Amities
            
            Philippe
            
            
            
            > Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at 
mcmaster.co.uk> a ?crit :
            > 
            > No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan 
(together with PS and LR CC)....
            > 
            > john
            > 
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org] On Behalf Of Richard Man
            > Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
            > To: Leica Users Group
            > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
            > 
            > I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, 
you will have
            > to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are 
paying
            > "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the 
$100+ every year,
            > if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. 
Just do some
            > web searches and you will find many stories.
            > 
            > Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and 
nothing
            > else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
            > 
            > 
            > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com> wrote:
            > 
            >> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside 
for recess and
            >> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground 
Equipment .
            >> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room 
all of them
            >> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
            >> None of them played computer games. They all played with 
Photoshop with
            >> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As 
did I in my
            >> studio.
            >> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own 
images.
            >> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best 
Photoshop
            >> time. Still do.
            >> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap 
cameras. The ones
            >> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste 
their money and
            >> time on making images with expensive software.
            >> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
            >> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images 
which may come
            >> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >> --
            >> 
            >> Mark William Rabiner
            >> Photographer
            >> 
            >> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
            >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on 
behalf of
            >> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
            >> 
            >>    Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
            >> 
            >>    Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids 
on tablets) -
            >> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite 
intuitively.
            >> 
            >>    And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s 
photoshop. The
            >> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave 
up ?
            >> 
            >>    OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also 
sometimes get better
            >> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
            >> 
            >>    Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts 
plug-ins if
            >> needed
            >> 
            >>    Hope this helps
            >> 
            >>    Amities
            >> 
            >>    Philippe
            >> 
            >> 
            >> 
            >>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
            >> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
            >>> 
            >>> Hi all,
            >>> 
            >>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a 
couple
            >> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
            >>> What software are you all using to manage your digital 
images?
            >> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
            >>> 
            >>> 
            >>> Richard Endress
            >>> rendress at me.com
            >>> 
            >>> 
        
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