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Subject: [Leica] Leica Sl2 announced
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (Ted Grant)
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 09:27:08 -0800
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HI ARAM,
YES IT WAS A LOAD MANY YEARS AGO AND I DID WIEGHT LIFTING WHEN I COULD. 
IT CERTAINLY MADE A DIFFERENCE CARRYING 3 MOTOR DRIVE "M's ON MY NECK 
RESTING ON CHEST. 2 LEICA slr's AT THE SAME TIME ON THE LEFT SHOULDER, ONE 
ON THE RIGHT.
BUT WHEN ONE IS SHOOTING FOR LOVE AND LIVING OF PHOTOGRAPHY, ONE IS FIRING 
AWAY FOR THE LOVE OF IT.
IT WAS NEVER WORK ALWAYS FOR THE "LOVE OF IT!"
CHEERS,
Dr.ted grant O.C.

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of Aram via LUG
Sent: November-18-19 10:08 AM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Cc: Aram
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Sl2 announced

Quite the load, Ted, and you have the portfolio to show for it.  But now 
imagine you doing that now?  Us LUG members are getting older, and weight is 
a consideration, for some a major one.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: Ted Grant
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2019 10:22 PM
To: 'Leica Users Group'
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Sl2 announced

HI CREW,
EACH TIME I SEE A LETTER ABOUT LENS/CAMERA WEIGHTS AND OTHER THINGS OF THIS 
NATURE? I LIKE TO POST MY LEICA GEAR AS USED FOR MANY YEARS DEPENDING ON THE 
ASSIGNMENT I MAY BE COVERING FOR THE ASSIGNING CLIENTS?
THE FOLLOWING LIST OF GEAR IS FOR REAL AND USED ON MANY OF MY DOCUMENTARY 
SHOOTS.

"M FILM CAMERAS FIRST THEN SWITCH TO EVERYTHING DIGITAL:
1/HANGING AROUND MY NECK ONTO CHEST 3 M's WITH MOTOR DRIVES ON EACH HANGING 
ONE ABOVE THE OTHER
TOP 15mm
    21mm
    50mm F1:0 NOCTILUX
EACH LOADED WITH 36FRMS=35MM ROLLS
LEFT SHOULDER?==
2- MOTOR LEICA SLR'S -- 
LENSES?
  135MM & 180MM
RIGHT SHOULDER 4TH SLR CAMERA-MOTOR DRIVEN==
LENS WAS CHOOSEN DEPENDING ON TYPE OF ASSIGNMENT AND SUBJECT?  EXTRA REACH 
REQUIRED? 400MM!
THAT WAS THE GEAR CARRIED ON MANY ASSIGNMENTS SUCH AS SHOOTING BUILDING CARS 
ON ASSEMBLY-LINE SITUATIONS. MILITARY, SPORTS?
OH IT WAS A TAD HEAVY AT TIMES, BUT REALLY? AFTER MANY MANY YEARS HAVING TO 
SHOOT ON ASSIGNMENTS OF THESE TYPES? I LOVED EVERY MOMENT OF THEM!!!
IT WAS AN INTERESTING LIFE STYLE TO SAY THE LEAST!

CHEERS,
Dr. Ted Grant O.C.



-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+tedgrant=shaw.ca at leica-users.org] On Behalf 
Of 
Ken Iisaka
Sent: November-14-19 2:41 PM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica Sl2 announced

The SL and 24/90 is a formidable combination. Even though they weigh 2 kg
combined, it's still lighter than an M body with 4 lenses.

However, the Q2 is currently taking a large percentage of my use-cases.
However, I've placed an order for an SL2. I suspect that its flexibility
will steal some thunder from the Q2.


On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 09:56, Tina Manley via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> I use everything from R to M to SL lenses on my SL.  They all work great.
> When I'm lazy, the autofocus ie well worth using.  I probably use the 
> 24-90
> more than any other and for the non-SL it would be the 100 Macro R lens.
>
> Tina
>
> On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 12:49 PM Lew Schwartz via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Coming late to the party. Everyone seems to be using the new lenses. Is
> > there an assessment for foregoing auto-everything & just using classic M
> > glass? That'd be my primary interest. I miss my 35mm Summies.
> >
> > -Lew Schwartz
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 7:51 PM Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Aw, screw it.
> > >
> > > I've decided I will get it when I visit Europe again next year. At 
> > > 5999
> > EUR
> > > less VAT (about 5200 USD), the price difference from the US price
> > (5999USD
> > > + 9.25% = $6554) will pay for the airfare.
> > >
> > > For the last 24 hours, I was trying to convince myself how my dented 
> > > SL
> > > works beautifully, and its quality won't get any worse because there
> is a
> > > new camera. But it is such a quantum leap. It will be the last camera 
> > > I
> > > will ever need or want for pretty much all shooting situations I can
> > > imagine for myself.
> > >
> > > Or save a few bucks and get a Panasonic S1R? I know I won't be happy
> with
> > > its user interface, and the fact that I will have to carry
> > > different batteries and a different charger. The fact that it shares
> the
> > > same battery with SL and Q2 is brilliant.
> > >
> > > I frequently carry my Q2 and SL+24/90 in my Hadley bag. I may still 
> > > use
> > the
> > > Q2 for most of what I shoot, but the SL2 will be formidable.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 13:36, Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG <
> > > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I do not know about the Leica SL lenses, but the Nikon Z series full
> > > frame
> > > > mirrorless 24-70mm f2.8 zoom is much smaller and lighter than the
> > > > equivalent F mount version. I would guess that it is because of not
> > > having
> > > > the vibration reduction mechanism in the lens, as well as the less
> > weight
> > > > and bulk of the new "focus by wire"  electronic focusing system (as
> > > opposed
> > > > to the old mechanical focusing system). The primes are roughly
> > comparable
> > > > to their F mount AF cousins.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Jayanand
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 10:44 AM Howard L Ritter Jr via LUG <
> > > > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The Leica web page on the SL prime lenses describes them as
> > ?compact?.
> > > > The
> > > > > 50/2 and 35/2 are enormous! They're twice the length and  four
> times
> > > the
> > > > > weight of the autofocus lenses on my old Nikon and my Sony RX1 
> > > > > (and
> > > > > substantially bigger than the Q?s lens) ? and the stabilization is
> in
> > > the
> > > > > body.
> > > > >
> > > > > How much aberration is being corrected by such extreme measures as
> 12
> > > or
> > > > > 13 elements and the associated weight and length?
> > > > >
> > > > > ?howard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 6, 2019, at 7:27 PM, Douglas Herr via LUG <
> > > lug at leica-users.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It looks very nice.  Of course for my use some critical lenses
> are
> > > > > missing, and I have a couple of performance concerns that were
> > present
> > > on
> > > > > the SL with the firmware I used that would have to have been fixed
> > > > before I
> > > > > considered this camera.  There's also the foul taste in my mouth
> re:
> > > > Leica
> > > > > service, and I'm also heavily invested in another system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug Herr
> > > > > > Birdman of Sacramento
> > > > > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> From: Frank Filippone via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > > > >> Sent: Nov 6, 2019 7:28 AM
> > > > > >> To: 'Leica Users Group' <lug at leica-users.org>
> > > > > >> Cc: Frank Filippone <red735i at verizon.net>
> > > > > >> Subject: [Leica] Leica Sl2 announced
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Amazingly, same price as SL: $5995 but has a 47MP sensor with
> > IBIS.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> https://us.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-SL/Leica-SL2
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Frank Filippone
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Red735i at verizon.net
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Ken Iisaka
> > > first name at last name dot org or com
> > >
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>
> --
> Tina Manley
> www.tinamanley.com
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley
> <
> http://www.alamy.com/stock-photography/3B49552F-90A0-4D0A-A11D-2175C937AA91/Tina+Manley.html
> >
> *https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html
> <https://www.alamy.com/portfolio/649596.html>*
>
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-- 
Ken Iisaka
first name at last name dot org or com

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