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Subject: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
From: don.dory at gmail.com (Don Dory)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 06:40:28 -0500
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Hello Luis,  I also found that static electricity would keep an obnoxious
bit of something on the negative as you suggest.   I found that an
anti-static "gun" from an audio shop specializing in records to be helpful
in persuading the dust to find another home.  That and a good wipe down and
mopping of the darkroom to remove static and settle the dust.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:43 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> My postal address is:
>
> Lluis Ripoll
> Maria Auxiliadora, 23
> 08017 Barcelona / Spain
>
> Please let me know how much shall I send you and how, thank, it?s very
> kind of you!
>
> Cheers
> Lluis
>
>
> > El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:36, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va
> escriure:
> >
> > Selenium usually changed the tones slightly.  Let me know a postal
> address and I will send you my Spotone stuff.....
> >
> > john
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On
> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
> > Sent: 18 February 2019 23:35
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Cc: Lluis Ripoll
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
> >
> > Thank you very much Ken, this one is that I?ve saw as well in Europe. In
> my opinion I will just need the ?Neutral Black?, my enlargements are not
> toned, I do a short bath of Selenium for keeping better conservation but it
> has no influence in the tone.
> >
> > Lluis
> >
> >
> >> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:22, Ken Carney via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> va escriure:
> >>
> >> Spotone is gone, but Marshall has similar products.  The brush was
> really important, just a tiny sharp tip almost dry.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436740-REG/marshall_retouching_ms4b_spot_all_kit_4b_4.html
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
> >>> Thank you Don, I develop my negatives in distilled water and I rinse
> them with Tetenal Mirasol (similar to Photo Flo), I can say that generally
> I obtain a satisfactory cleaning of my negatives, the problem I?ve
> encountered has been when I?ve enlarged a negative, on the print it
> appeared asomething very small like a small hair, I?ve cleaned the negative
> with an anti-static cloth and I?ve removed the dust, I did a new
> enlargement and the dust has appeared in an other location of the
> enlargement. On this case what I want is simply do a retouching of the
> enlargement. I?ve received many answers and comments recommending me
> Spotone and I will try it.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you!
> >>> Lluis
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 4:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
> va escriure:
> >>>>
> >>>> Back in the day: start with distilled water filtered for all your
> mixing of
> >>>> chemicals and rinsing negatives in photoflo.  Use a clean soft pad to
> >>>> remove excess wetting agent or what I used at the end, denatured
> alcohol
> >>>> leaving the film on the reels..  Then I had a custom built film dryer
> that
> >>>> basically used a hairdryer sucking in air through a hepa filter and
> into a
> >>>> metal tube that held the reels of film.  So, most of the time the
> film was
> >>>> clean and straight into sleeves.
> >>>>
> >>>> When enlarging blow the negatives off with an air compressor through
> a hepa
> >>>> filter.  If you still have dust spots then, sigh, there is nothing
> but spot
> >>>> tone inks and a really fine brush.  Become the artist and mix the
> colors
> >>>> until you get the tone right, much easier typed than done.  I will
> say that
> >>>> once you have standardized on a paper and developer you learn the mix
> and
> >>>> it becomes a lot easier.  Wearing one of those binocular magnifiers
> you see
> >>>> jewelers and watch repair techs use carefully put really tiny dots of
> ink
> >>>> down in the dust spot building the density up with more dots.  Let it
> dry
> >>>> between as the density changes as it dries.  This is a true art/craft
> and
> >>>> it gets much easier the more you do it.  I have to say that I was
> doing a
> >>>> lot of this for myself and others who gave up learning.
> >>>>
> >>>> But, with a smile, spotting is so much easier using Adobe's tools.
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best, and just like using an M, there is a learning curve in
> seeing
> >>>> color in the B&W and a steady hand with the brush along with a whole
> lot of
> >>>> patience.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Steve, mon ami
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I will share the answer with you if I find it?..
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Amiti?s
> >>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 1:19, Stephen Barbour via LUG <
> >>>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
> >>>>>> Well put, agree with all including your ending question.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, Steve
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
> lug at leica-users.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> I?ve encountered sometimes when I enlarge a small dust like small
> hairs
> >>>>> that ruin the enlargement. I clean it, I look to the negative with a
> >>>>> magnifier 8X but sometimes I?ve removed the dust from one point to
> another
> >>>>> point.
> >>>>>>> To clean the nregative I?m using PEC PAD with the special tissues
> >>>>> provided but sometimes a supplementary action on the enlargement
> would be
> >>>>> necessary. I think it is very difficult do a good retouching and
> make a
> >>>>> similar tone to the one of the print.
> >>>>>>> Some experiences about cleaning better the negatives or applying
> >>>>> retouching?
> >>>>>>> Thank you!
> >>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>> --
> >>>> Don
> >>>> don.dory at gmail.com
> >>>>
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Don
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