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Subject: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
From: john at mcmaster.co.uk (John McMaster)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 23:36:57 +0000
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Selenium usually changed the tones slightly.  Let me know a postal address 
and I will send you my Spotone stuff.....

john

-----Original Message-----
From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
Sent: 18 February 2019 23:35
To: Leica Users Group
Cc: Lluis Ripoll
Subject: Re: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?

Thank you very much Ken, this one is that I?ve saw as well in Europe. In my 
opinion I will just need the ?Neutral Black?, my enlargements are not toned, 
I do a short bath of Selenium for keeping better conservation but it has no 
influence in the tone.

Lluis


> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:22, Ken Carney via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
> va escriure:
> 
> Spotone is gone, but Marshall has similar products.  The brush was really 
> important, just a tiny sharp tip almost dry.
> 
> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436740-REG/marshall_retouching_ms4b_spot_all_kit_4b_4.html
> 
> Ken
> 
> On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
>> Thank you Don, I develop my negatives in distilled water and I rinse them 
>> with Tetenal Mirasol (similar to Photo Flo), I can say that generally I 
>> obtain a satisfactory cleaning of my negatives, the problem I?ve 
>> encountered has been when I?ve enlarged a negative, on the print it 
>> appeared asomething very small like a small hair, I?ve cleaned the 
>> negative with an anti-static cloth and I?ve removed the dust, I did a new 
>> enlargement and the dust has appeared in an other location of the 
>> enlargement. On this case what I want is simply do a retouching of the 
>> enlargement. I?ve received many answers and comments recommending me 
>> Spotone and I will try it.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 4:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>>> va escriure:
>>> 
>>> Back in the day: start with distilled water filtered for all your mixing 
>>> of
>>> chemicals and rinsing negatives in photoflo.  Use a clean soft pad to
>>> remove excess wetting agent or what I used at the end, denatured alcohol
>>> leaving the film on the reels..  Then I had a custom built film dryer 
>>> that
>>> basically used a hairdryer sucking in air through a hepa filter and into 
>>> a
>>> metal tube that held the reels of film.  So, most of the time the film 
>>> was
>>> clean and straight into sleeves.
>>> 
>>> When enlarging blow the negatives off with an air compressor through a 
>>> hepa
>>> filter.  If you still have dust spots then, sigh, there is nothing but 
>>> spot
>>> tone inks and a really fine brush.  Become the artist and mix the colors
>>> until you get the tone right, much easier typed than done.  I will say 
>>> that
>>> once you have standardized on a paper and developer you learn the mix and
>>> it becomes a lot easier.  Wearing one of those binocular magnifiers you 
>>> see
>>> jewelers and watch repair techs use carefully put really tiny dots of ink
>>> down in the dust spot building the density up with more dots.  Let it dry
>>> between as the density changes as it dries.  This is a true art/craft and
>>> it gets much easier the more you do it.  I have to say that I was doing a
>>> lot of this for myself and others who gave up learning.
>>> 
>>> But, with a smile, spotting is so much easier using Adobe's tools.
>>> 
>>> All the best, and just like using an M, there is a learning curve in 
>>> seeing
>>> color in the B&W and a steady hand with the brush along with a whole lot 
>>> of
>>> patience.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>> leica-users.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Steve, mon ami
>>>> 
>>>> I will share the answer with you if I find it?..
>>>> 
>>>> Amiti?s
>>>> Lluis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 1:19, Stephen Barbour via LUG <
>>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>> Well put, agree with all including your ending question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>> leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I?ve encountered sometimes when I enlarge a small dust like small 
>>>>>> hairs
>>>> that ruin the enlargement. I clean it, I look to the negative with a
>>>> magnifier 8X but sometimes I?ve removed the dust from one point to 
>>>> another
>>>> point.
>>>>>> To clean the nregative I?m using PEC PAD with the special tissues
>>>> provided but sometimes a supplementary action on the enlargement would 
>>>> be
>>>> necessary. I think it is very difficult do a good retouching and make a
>>>> similar tone to the one of the print.
>>>>>> Some experiences about cleaning better the negatives or applying
>>>> retouching?
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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