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Subject: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:43:33 +0100
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Hi John,

My postal address is:

Lluis Ripoll
Maria Auxiliadora, 23
08017 Barcelona / Spain

Please let me know how much shall I send you and how, thank, it?s very kind 
of you!

Cheers
Lluis


> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:36, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Selenium usually changed the tones slightly.  Let me know a postal address 
> and I will send you my Spotone stuff.....
> 
> john
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On 
> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
> Sent: 18 February 2019 23:35
> To: Leica Users Group
> Cc: Lluis Ripoll
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
> 
> Thank you very much Ken, this one is that I?ve saw as well in Europe. In 
> my opinion I will just need the ?Neutral Black?, my enlargements are not 
> toned, I do a short bath of Selenium for keeping better conservation but 
> it has no influence in the tone.
> 
> Lluis
> 
> 
>> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:22, Ken Carney via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>> va escriure:
>> 
>> Spotone is gone, but Marshall has similar products.  The brush was really 
>> important, just a tiny sharp tip almost dry.
>> 
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436740-REG/marshall_retouching_ms4b_spot_all_kit_4b_4.html
>> 
>> Ken
>> 
>> On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
>>> Thank you Don, I develop my negatives in distilled water and I rinse 
>>> them with Tetenal Mirasol (similar to Photo Flo), I can say that 
>>> generally I obtain a satisfactory cleaning of my negatives, the problem 
>>> I?ve encountered has been when I?ve enlarged a negative, on the print it 
>>> appeared asomething very small like a small hair, I?ve cleaned the 
>>> negative with an anti-static cloth and I?ve removed the dust, I did a 
>>> new enlargement and the dust has appeared in an other location of the 
>>> enlargement. On this case what I want is simply do a retouching of the 
>>> enlargement. I?ve received many answers and comments recommending me 
>>> Spotone and I will try it.
>>> 
>>> Thank you!
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 4:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> 
>>>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Back in the day: start with distilled water filtered for all your 
>>>> mixing of
>>>> chemicals and rinsing negatives in photoflo.  Use a clean soft pad to
>>>> remove excess wetting agent or what I used at the end, denatured alcohol
>>>> leaving the film on the reels..  Then I had a custom built film dryer 
>>>> that
>>>> basically used a hairdryer sucking in air through a hepa filter and 
>>>> into a
>>>> metal tube that held the reels of film.  So, most of the time the film 
>>>> was
>>>> clean and straight into sleeves.
>>>> 
>>>> When enlarging blow the negatives off with an air compressor through a 
>>>> hepa
>>>> filter.  If you still have dust spots then, sigh, there is nothing but 
>>>> spot
>>>> tone inks and a really fine brush.  Become the artist and mix the colors
>>>> until you get the tone right, much easier typed than done.  I will say 
>>>> that
>>>> once you have standardized on a paper and developer you learn the mix 
>>>> and
>>>> it becomes a lot easier.  Wearing one of those binocular magnifiers you 
>>>> see
>>>> jewelers and watch repair techs use carefully put really tiny dots of 
>>>> ink
>>>> down in the dust spot building the density up with more dots.  Let it 
>>>> dry
>>>> between as the density changes as it dries.  This is a true art/craft 
>>>> and
>>>> it gets much easier the more you do it.  I have to say that I was doing 
>>>> a
>>>> lot of this for myself and others who gave up learning.
>>>> 
>>>> But, with a smile, spotting is so much easier using Adobe's tools.
>>>> 
>>>> All the best, and just like using an M, there is a learning curve in 
>>>> seeing
>>>> color in the B&W and a steady hand with the brush along with a whole 
>>>> lot of
>>>> patience.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>> leica-users.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Steve, mon ami
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will share the answer with you if I find it?..
>>>>> 
>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 1:19, Stephen Barbour via LUG <
>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>>> Well put, agree with all including your ending question.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, Steve
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
>>>>>>> leica-users.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I?ve encountered sometimes when I enlarge a small dust like small 
>>>>>>> hairs
>>>>> that ruin the enlargement. I clean it, I look to the negative with a
>>>>> magnifier 8X but sometimes I?ve removed the dust from one point to 
>>>>> another
>>>>> point.
>>>>>>> To clean the nregative I?m using PEC PAD with the special tissues
>>>>> provided but sometimes a supplementary action on the enlargement would 
>>>>> be
>>>>> necessary. I think it is very difficult do a good retouching and make a
>>>>> similar tone to the one of the print.
>>>>>>> Some experiences about cleaning better the negatives or applying
>>>>> retouching?
>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Don
>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>> 
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