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Subject: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 13:17:42 +0100
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Thank you Don, I?m already using an anti-static cloth I was using for my 
records, but it is not efficient 100%, I have the brush ?Artic-Butterfly? to 
remove static dust in the sensors, I think it could be useful.

Best!
Lluis


> El 19 febr 2019, a les 12:40, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Hello Luis,  I also found that static electricity would keep an obnoxious
> bit of something on the negative as you suggest.   I found that an
> anti-static "gun" from an audio shop specializing in records to be helpful
> in persuading the dust to find another home.  That and a good wipe down and
> mopping of the darkroom to remove static and settle the dust.
> 
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 6:43 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <lug at 
> leica-users.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi John,
>> 
>> My postal address is:
>> 
>> Lluis Ripoll
>> Maria Auxiliadora, 23
>> 08017 Barcelona / Spain
>> 
>> Please let me know how much shall I send you and how, thank, it?s very
>> kind of you!
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Lluis
>> 
>> 
>>> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:36, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> va
>> escriure:
>>> 
>>> Selenium usually changed the tones slightly.  Let me know a postal
>> address and I will send you my Spotone stuff.....
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org] On
>> Behalf Of Lluis Ripoll via LUG
>>> Sent: 18 February 2019 23:35
>>> To: Leica Users Group
>>> Cc: Lluis Ripoll
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Retouching enlargements experience?
>>> 
>>> Thank you very much Ken, this one is that I?ve saw as well in Europe. In
>> my opinion I will just need the ?Neutral Black?, my enlargements are not
>> toned, I do a short bath of Selenium for keeping better conservation but 
>> it
>> has no influence in the tone.
>>> 
>>> Lluis
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> El 19 febr 2019, a les 0:22, Ken Carney via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> va escriure:
>>>> 
>>>> Spotone is gone, but Marshall has similar products.  The brush was
>> really important, just a tiny sharp tip almost dry.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>> https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436740-REG/marshall_retouching_ms4b_spot_all_kit_4b_4.html
>>>> 
>>>> Ken
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/18/2019 5:10 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG wrote:
>>>>> Thank you Don, I develop my negatives in distilled water and I rinse
>> them with Tetenal Mirasol (similar to Photo Flo), I can say that generally
>> I obtain a satisfactory cleaning of my negatives, the problem I?ve
>> encountered has been when I?ve enlarged a negative, on the print it
>> appeared asomething very small like a small hair, I?ve cleaned the 
>> negative
>> with an anti-static cloth and I?ve removed the dust, I did a new
>> enlargement and the dust has appeared in an other location of the
>> enlargement. On this case what I want is simply do a retouching of the
>> enlargement. I?ve received many answers and comments recommending me
>> Spotone and I will try it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 4:14, Don Dory via LUG <lug at leica-users.org>
>> va escriure:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Back in the day: start with distilled water filtered for all your
>> mixing of
>>>>>> chemicals and rinsing negatives in photoflo.  Use a clean soft pad to
>>>>>> remove excess wetting agent or what I used at the end, denatured
>> alcohol
>>>>>> leaving the film on the reels..  Then I had a custom built film dryer
>> that
>>>>>> basically used a hairdryer sucking in air through a hepa filter and
>> into a
>>>>>> metal tube that held the reels of film.  So, most of the time the
>> film was
>>>>>> clean and straight into sleeves.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When enlarging blow the negatives off with an air compressor through
>> a hepa
>>>>>> filter.  If you still have dust spots then, sigh, there is nothing
>> but spot
>>>>>> tone inks and a really fine brush.  Become the artist and mix the
>> colors
>>>>>> until you get the tone right, much easier typed than done.  I will
>> say that
>>>>>> once you have standardized on a paper and developer you learn the mix
>> and
>>>>>> it becomes a lot easier.  Wearing one of those binocular magnifiers
>> you see
>>>>>> jewelers and watch repair techs use carefully put really tiny dots of
>> ink
>>>>>> down in the dust spot building the density up with more dots.  Let it
>> dry
>>>>>> between as the density changes as it dries.  This is a true art/craft
>> and
>>>>>> it gets much easier the more you do it.  I have to say that I was
>> doing a
>>>>>> lot of this for myself and others who gave up learning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But, with a smile, spotting is so much easier using Adobe's tools.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All the best, and just like using an M, there is a learning curve in
>> seeing
>>>>>> color in the B&W and a steady hand with the brush along with a whole
>> lot of
>>>>>> patience.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:22 PM Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Steve, mon ami
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I will share the answer with you if I find it?..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Amiti?s
>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 18 febr 2019, a les 1:19, Stephen Barbour via LUG <
>>>>>>> lug at leica-users.org> va escriure:
>>>>>>>> Well put, agree with all including your ending question.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, Steve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 4:12 PM, Lluis Ripoll via LUG <
>> lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I?ve encountered sometimes when I enlarge a small dust like small
>> hairs
>>>>>>> that ruin the enlargement. I clean it, I look to the negative with a
>>>>>>> magnifier 8X but sometimes I?ve removed the dust from one point to
>> another
>>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>>>> To clean the nregative I?m using PEC PAD with the special tissues
>>>>>>> provided but sometimes a supplementary action on the enlargement
>> would be
>>>>>>> necessary. I think it is very difficult do a good retouching and
>> make a
>>>>>>> similar tone to the one of the print.
>>>>>>>>> Some experiences about cleaning better the negatives or applying
>>>>>>> retouching?
>>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Don
>>>>>> don.dory at gmail.com
>>>>>> 
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> 
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