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Subject: [Leica] M7 body has arrived!!
From: jackyaus at gmail.com (Jacky aus)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:54:52 +1100
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Hi Gerry,

Looking forward to share and see your film photography experience with us
later on?.. something too good to be true in this digital era?..

Cheers,

Jacky

On 16 March 2016 at 02:33, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:

> Well, my new (to me) M7 arrived this morning, and so did 5 rolls of Fuji
> Neopan 400CN so now all I have to do is put a lens on the front end and of
> I go! The camera looks and feels brand new because it has been nestled in
> the Artisan & Artist half case which was supplied with it, and there is not
> a mark to be seen. Excellent service from Harrison Cameras in Sheffield (
> www.harrisoncameras.co.uk) who can I recommend yet again.
>
> Gerry
>
> > On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:44, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Yes peter, and although it comes with Silverfast included I much prefer
> the results I get from Vuescan. BTW, you mentioned Silverprint and they are
> now an easy drive for me as they have moved out of London to Poole.
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> >> On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Which do you use? the 8200i?
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >> On 14/03/2016 21:09, Gerry Walden wrote:
> >>> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my
> Plustek so just got to get some images now!
> >>>
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Try
> http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
> >>>>
> >>>> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but
> even they will
> >>>> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
> >>>>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use
> for my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use,
> and his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is
> easy for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans
> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to
> Fuji. I will keep you posted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in
> addition to film
> >>>>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
> >>>>>>> Peter,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned
> film, they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if
> you go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and also
> develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? per film
> and I?m not sure how good is.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <
> pdzwig at summaventures.com> va escriure:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite
> limited...basically to
> >>>>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the
> shelves.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow.
> A lot of these
> >>>>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my
> humble experience.
> >>>>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly
> excellent) local
> >>>>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev
> shop and Ilford
> >>>>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who
> now run it
> >>>>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just
> a piece of
> >>>>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops
> a JPEG. Trouble
> >>>>>>>> was that they were only 1M.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what
> the variation
> >>>>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that
> relationship.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant
> medium.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Peter
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing
> machine
> >>>>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than
> supply JPEGs
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20
> years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before
> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>> Nathan
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
> >>>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
> >>>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
> >>>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
> >>>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws <
> http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ <
> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
> >>>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator <
> http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
> >>>>>>>>> YNWA
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
> >>>>>>>>>> icloud.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the
> decision to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get
> started. I am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do you use?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography <
> lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop,
> I?m a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , I
> have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems and one of
> the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or
> any other film camera and shoot film.?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>> Lluis
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <
> gerry.walden at icloud.com> va escriure:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to
> getting back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup
> in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i shot film
> for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be good to play with it
> again. Back to the world of exploring which film is best handled by the
> processors I guess because i don't want to get into the processing side of
> life, which I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an
> 'Artisan' half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
> >>>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ===========================================================
> >>>>>>>> Dr Peter Dzwig
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>
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> >>
> >>
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