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Subject: [Leica] M7 body coming - Peter
From: pdzwig at summaventures.com (Peter Dzwig)
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 22:41:45 +0000
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Which do you use? the 8200i?

Peter

On 14/03/2016 21:09, Gerry Walden wrote:
> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my 
> Plustek so just got to get some images now!
> 
> Gerry
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> wrote:
>>
>> Try http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
>>
>> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even 
>> they will
>> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use for 
>>> my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to use, and 
>>> his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he said it is 
>>> easy for them to process as it runs through the C41 chemistry, and scans 
>>> beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold of some, and chatting to 
>>> Fuji. I will keep you posted.
>>>
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in addition 
>>>> to film
>>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, 
>>>>> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except if 
>>>>> you go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your negs and 
>>>>> also develop, here a professional developing cost some more than 10? 
>>>>> per film and I?m not sure how good is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
>>>>>> summaventures.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite 
>>>>>> limited...basically to
>>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. A 
>>>>>> lot of these
>>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my humble 
>>>>>> experience.
>>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>>>>> excellent) local
>>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev shop 
>>>>>> and Ilford
>>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who now 
>>>>>> run it
>>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a 
>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a 
>>>>>> JPEG. Trouble
>>>>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>>>>> variation
>>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>>>>> relationship.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant medium.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing machine
>>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than 
>>>>>> supply JPEGs
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 years 
>>>>>>> ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used back before 
>>>>>>> going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the Ilford films.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the decision 
>>>>>>>> to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait to get 
>>>>>>>> started. I am a little out of touch with modern films, so which do 
>>>>>>>> you use?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, I?m 
>>>>>>>>> a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors etc? , 
>>>>>>>>> I have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor problems 
>>>>>>>>> and one of the members has said "If you want "real" B&W, pick up 
>>>>>>>>> an earlier M Leica or any other film camera and shoot film.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting 
>>>>>>>>>> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a backup 
>>>>>>>>>> in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said that i 
>>>>>>>>>> shot film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and it will be 
>>>>>>>>>> good to play with it again. Back to the world of exploring which 
>>>>>>>>>> film is best handled by the processors I guess because i don't 
>>>>>>>>>> want to get into the processing side of life, which I never did 
>>>>>>>>>> enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete with an 'Artisan' 
>>>>>>>>>> half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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