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Subject: [Leica] M7 body has arrived!!
From: lluisripollphotography at gmail.com (lluisripollphotography)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 01:23:42 +0100
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Congrats again Gerry, I can?t wait for the photos!

Meanwhile I?m preparing my MM to send it to Wetzlar, Sensor corrosion?.

Cheers
Lluis


> El 15 mar? 2016, a les 16:33, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> va 
> escriure:
> 
> Well, my new (to me) M7 arrived this morning, and so did 5 rolls of Fuji 
> Neopan 400CN so now all I have to do is put a lens on the front end and of 
> I go! The camera looks and feels brand new because it has been nestled in 
> the Artisan & Artist half case which was supplied with it, and there is 
> not a mark to be seen. Excellent service from Harrison Cameras in 
> Sheffield (www.harrisoncameras.co.uk) who can I recommend yet again.
> 
> Gerry
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:44, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes peter, and although it comes with Silverfast included I much prefer 
>> the results I get from Vuescan. BTW, you mentioned Silverprint and they 
>> are now an easy drive for me as they have moved out of London to Poole.
>> 
>> Gerry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 22:41, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Which do you use? the 8200i?
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> On 14/03/2016 21:09, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>>> I plan to do my own scanning Peter. I am getting good results from my 
>>>> Plustek so just got to get some images now!
>>>> 
>>>> Gerry
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 20:58, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Try 
>>>>> http://shop.silverprint.co.uk/Fuji-Black-and-White-Film/catalogue/186/
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW I looked at Peak Imaging who have a very high reputation, but even 
>>>>> they will
>>>>> only scan to JPEG, although some are very high resolution (40+MB)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peter
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 14/03/2016 14:39, Gerry Walden wrote:
>>>>>> I had an interesting chat with the guy who runs the lab I will use 
>>>>>> for my b&w film processing today. We chatted about the best film to 
>>>>>> use, and his opinion was that Fuji Neopan 400CN is the best now. he 
>>>>>> said it is easy for them to process as it runs through the C41 
>>>>>> chemistry, and scans beautifully. I am currently trying to get hold 
>>>>>> of some, and chatting to Fuji. I will keep you posted.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 14 Mar 2016, at 11:53, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at summaventures.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here develop and scan to CD is about ?10 (?12.50) which is in 
>>>>>>> addition to film
>>>>>>> costs of course. Ilford charge extra.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 23:35, lluisripollphotography wrote:
>>>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have the same bad experience, once I have ordered a scanned film, 
>>>>>>>> they gave me Tiff files but very bad scans, at this moment, except 
>>>>>>>> if you go to a high pro level the best is you scan yourself your 
>>>>>>>> negs and also develop, here a professional developing cost some 
>>>>>>>> more than 10? per film and I?m not sure how good is.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> El 13 mar? 2016, a les 23:59, Peter Dzwig <pdzwig at 
>>>>>>>>> summaventures.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree but if you want C-41 you are quite 
>>>>>>>>> limited...basically to
>>>>>>>>> Ilford, although there is some BW400CN still around on the shelves.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If I can inject a word of caution: watch the processing workflow. 
>>>>>>>>> A lot of these
>>>>>>>>> guys say that they will provide TIFFs or hi-res JPEGs. In my 
>>>>>>>>> humble experience.
>>>>>>>>> I have processed four films recently, two through my (formerly 
>>>>>>>>> excellent) local
>>>>>>>>> dev shop and two by Ilford.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Neither came back as I requested as High Res TIFFs. Both the dev 
>>>>>>>>> shop and Ilford
>>>>>>>>> returned scanned JPEGs. In the case of the dev shop the girls who 
>>>>>>>>> now run it
>>>>>>>>> didn't seem to know what a TIFF was; to them developing was just a 
>>>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>>> workflow. Pop in the film at one end of the scanner and out pops a 
>>>>>>>>> JPEG. Trouble
>>>>>>>>> was that they were only 1M.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The Ilford ones at least were 3. -5 M, but goodness knows what the 
>>>>>>>>> variation
>>>>>>>>> signifies or how the decision was made.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In short you need to find someone you can trust and build that 
>>>>>>>>> relationship.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> But don't let that put you off film. It is still a brilliant 
>>>>>>>>> medium.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PS From conversations I understand that some of the processing 
>>>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>>>> manufacturers no longer supply machines that will do other than 
>>>>>>>>> supply JPEGs
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 13/03/2016 13:31, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gerry,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Permit me to jump in?while film selection is not as good as 20 
>>>>>>>>>> years ago, in B&W I have bought some of the same films I used 
>>>>>>>>>> back before going digital, such as Tri-X, Fuji Acros, and the 
>>>>>>>>>> Ilford films.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Nathan
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>>>>>>>>> Alicante, Spain
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu <http://www.frozenlight.eu/>
>>>>>>>>>> http:// <http://www.greatpix.eu/>www.greatpix.eu
>>>>>>>>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws>Blog: 
>>>>>>>>>> http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/ 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/>
>>>>>>>>>> Cycling: http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator 
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/belgiangator>
>>>>>>>>>> YNWA
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 10:01, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> your comments are of great interest. Now I have made the 
>>>>>>>>>>> decision to shoot film again for some of my work I cannot wait 
>>>>>>>>>>> to get started. I am a little out of touch with modern films, so 
>>>>>>>>>>> which do you use?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 13 Mar 2016, at 02:15, lluisripollphotography 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <lluisripollphotography at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good new Gerry!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I?m shooting again film too, I have several films to develop, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I?m a little disappointed with all these problems with sensors 
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc? , I have followed the comments on the LFI about the sensor 
>>>>>>>>>>>> problems and one of the members has said "If you want "real" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> B&W, pick up an earlier M Leica or any other film camera and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shoot film.?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> As you say, we are trained for this!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> El 12 mar? 2016, a les 17:21, Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> icloud.com> va escriure:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I ordered a used M7 today, and I am looking forward to getting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to film after 13 or 14 years. I bought it mainly as a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup in case anything goes wrong with my M9, but having said 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that i shot film for around 40+ years from the age of 14 and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it will be good to play with it again. Back to the world of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exploring which film is best handled by the processors I guess 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because i don't want to get into the processing side of life, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which I never did enjoy. it should arrive on Tuesday complete 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with an 'Artisan' half-case and a Leicatime strap - such class!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.gwpics.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ===========================================================
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>>>>>>>>> 
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