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Subject: [Leica] any Sony rx 1 users
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0800
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Yes, and if we can trust anyone, it would be Paul's.
On Feb 12, 2013 5:06 PM, "Marty Deveney" <benedenia at gmail.com> wrote:

> But the lens isn't very good, which is particularly problematic in a
> fixed lens camera.
>
> Marty
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
> > All this talk about flash this and flash that.
> > This is a full frame camera which can be used easily at iso 64,000 and
> > beyond just like a 3 pound full frame DSLR flagship camera can be. But
> can
> > go in your pocket.
> > And just like a Rollei 35. Which few used with flash.
> >
> > Its the beginning of full frame compact options for those who want the
> > quality that full frame brings you and are willing to pay a bit extra for
> > it.
> > They 're not going to have to pay THAT much for it as this is also
> obviously
> > a premium placed camera. The ostentatious lens and ultra solid build
> makes
> > it so. Plenty of full frame compact options will be had soon made of more
> > traditional plastic and with a safe mindless zoom designed to appeal to
> the
> > masses. It won't really cost this much to have full frame fit in your
> > pocket.
> > It will be under two grand not under three. USD.
> >
> > Sony is a company I trust more than any other electronics company.
> > They seldom blow it. If that's the case now its a darned shame but I
> don't
> > think its going to slow up the reality of a full  frame compact market.
> >
> > To me it makes the full frame compact solution really serious. Instead of
> > just pretending to me. A full frame compact camera would really be a
> serious
> > picture taking solution to be embraced by top pros and very serious
> > amateurs. The 1.5 crop and 2x crop would like to be but they are not.
> > We are all just too familiar with what a full frame digital sensor can
> bring
> > to our work. And many of us are willing to drag one around to get that.
> But
> > when its compact that's a dream come true. When its compact we're talking
> > Barnack.
> >
> >
> > On 2/12/13 3:58 PM, "John Owlett" <owl at postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Monday 11 February 2013, at 18:06 PST, Paul Roark wrote:
> >>
> >>> I had the opportunity to test a Sony RX1 briefly.  I sent it back due
> >>> to defects, but it is an interesting camera and has a few attributes
> >>> that are an exciting glimpse of the future.
> >>>
> >>> ... snip ...
> >>>
> >>> So, interesting, but not ready for prime time for me.
> >>
> >> When the Sony DSC-RX1 was first mentioned on the LUG, several people
> >> expressed doubts as to whether it would actually be bought to take
> >> pictures.  My reaction was, "It might be", so I went across to
> >> Bournemouth to take a close look at one.
> >>
> >> The RX1 is basically a solidly built camera body with a 24.3 megapixel
> >> sensor and a good 35mm f/2 lens.  What Sony seems to be trying to do
> >> is to offer picture quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron, with
> >> build quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron ... without the
> >> flexibility of a system camera ... but at less than half the weight
> >> and less than half the price.
> >>
> >> And if Sony can achieve that, why not?  After all, Rolleiflex sold
> >> about two million miniature Rollei 35 film cameras, and still makes
> >> an occasional batch.
> >>
> >> As a build-quality neurotic, but not a camera engineer, I felt that
> >> the RX1 was as solidly built as the Nikon F3/T I had with me;
> >>
> >> ... but ...
> >>
> >> the RX1 has no integral viewfinder.  There is an EVF you can put in
> >> the hot shoe, but then you cannot fit a separate flash unit there.
> >> There is a compact-camera-style pop-up flash, but of course that
> >> won't bounce.
> >>
> >> There apppears to be no way to use an EVF and a separate flash unit
> >> at the same time, without setting up a slave flash to be triggered
> >> by the pop-up unit.  Which is complication too far for my ideal of
> >> a walkabout camera.
> >>
> >> So, while I would agree with Paul that it is "an exciting glimpse
> >> of the future", I would also agree that it is "not ready for prime
> >> time for me."
> >>
> >> Later,
> >>
> >> Dr Owl
> >>
> >> ----------------------------
> >> John Owlett, Southampton, UK
> >>
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> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] any Sony RX 1 users)
Reply from roark.paul at gmail.com (Paul Roark) ([Leica] any Sony rx 1 users)
In reply to: Message from owl at postmaster.co.uk (John Owlett) ([Leica] any Sony rx 1 users)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] any Sony rx 1 users)
Message from benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney) ([Leica] any Sony rx 1 users)