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Subject: [Leica] any Sony rx 1 users
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:36:07 +1030
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But the lens isn't very good, which is particularly problematic in a
fixed lens camera.

Marty

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> All this talk about flash this and flash that.
> This is a full frame camera which can be used easily at iso 64,000 and
> beyond just like a 3 pound full frame DSLR flagship camera can be. But can
> go in your pocket.
> And just like a Rollei 35. Which few used with flash.
>
> Its the beginning of full frame compact options for those who want the
> quality that full frame brings you and are willing to pay a bit extra for
> it.
> They 're not going to have to pay THAT much for it as this is also 
> obviously
> a premium placed camera. The ostentatious lens and ultra solid build makes
> it so. Plenty of full frame compact options will be had soon made of more
> traditional plastic and with a safe mindless zoom designed to appeal to the
> masses. It won't really cost this much to have full frame fit in your
> pocket.
> It will be under two grand not under three. USD.
>
> Sony is a company I trust more than any other electronics company.
> They seldom blow it. If that's the case now its a darned shame but I don't
> think its going to slow up the reality of a full  frame compact market.
>
> To me it makes the full frame compact solution really serious. Instead of
> just pretending to me. A full frame compact camera would really be a 
> serious
> picture taking solution to be embraced by top pros and very serious
> amateurs. The 1.5 crop and 2x crop would like to be but they are not.
> We are all just too familiar with what a full frame digital sensor can 
> bring
> to our work. And many of us are willing to drag one around to get that. But
> when its compact that's a dream come true. When its compact we're talking
> Barnack.
>
>
> On 2/12/13 3:58 PM, "John Owlett" <owl at postmaster.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Monday 11 February 2013, at 18:06 PST, Paul Roark wrote:
>>
>>> I had the opportunity to test a Sony RX1 briefly.  I sent it back due
>>> to defects, but it is an interesting camera and has a few attributes
>>> that are an exciting glimpse of the future.
>>>
>>> ... snip ...
>>>
>>> So, interesting, but not ready for prime time for me.
>>
>> When the Sony DSC-RX1 was first mentioned on the LUG, several people
>> expressed doubts as to whether it would actually be bought to take
>> pictures.  My reaction was, "It might be", so I went across to
>> Bournemouth to take a close look at one.
>>
>> The RX1 is basically a solidly built camera body with a 24.3 megapixel
>> sensor and a good 35mm f/2 lens.  What Sony seems to be trying to do
>> is to offer picture quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron, with
>> build quality as good as an M-240 + Summicron ... without the
>> flexibility of a system camera ... but at less than half the weight
>> and less than half the price.
>>
>> And if Sony can achieve that, why not?  After all, Rolleiflex sold
>> about two million miniature Rollei 35 film cameras, and still makes
>> an occasional batch.
>>
>> As a build-quality neurotic, but not a camera engineer, I felt that
>> the RX1 was as solidly built as the Nikon F3/T I had with me;
>>
>> ... but ...
>>
>> the RX1 has no integral viewfinder.  There is an EVF you can put in
>> the hot shoe, but then you cannot fit a separate flash unit there.
>> There is a compact-camera-style pop-up flash, but of course that
>> won't bounce.
>>
>> There apppears to be no way to use an EVF and a separate flash unit
>> at the same time, without setting up a slave flash to be triggered
>> by the pop-up unit.  Which is complication too far for my ideal of
>> a walkabout camera.
>>
>> So, while I would agree with Paul that it is "an exciting glimpse
>> of the future", I would also agree that it is "not ready for prime
>> time for me."
>>
>> Later,
>>
>> Dr Owl
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> John Owlett, Southampton, UK
>>
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