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Subject: [Leica] marriage
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 01:11:30 +0200
References: <CA+yJO1DbWqZUP1ju_Xs6ydtGVat_v0Zu9F4teS7stQ2N3UYVOQ@mail.gmail.com> <CBEC19FE.15876%chris@chriscrawfordphoto.com> <CA+yJO1AjhHVP8rsCE20SyzEr9UR9HzCG4-AYQytLOFCT3Z+PSg@mail.gmail.com>

Tina,

Do you know the Groucho Marx quote "Marriage is the leading cause of  
divorces"

Just a joke... but here too, is the same, many young marrieds are  
divorced a few years after. I don't know if this a consequence and a  
sign of our times, everything goes fast, everything is changing...

Saludos
Lluis



El 31/05/2012, a las 1:03, Tina Manley escribi?:

> That's what my son is telling me.  He has been living with his  
> girlfriend
> for 7 years and they have just bought a house together!  When I ask  
> about
> marriage, they both say that every friend they have who has gotten  
> married
> has ended up divorced within a year or two.  They are actually  
> afraid of
> marriage.  What has happened?  Why is marriage a threat instead of a
> promise?
>
> Maybe we should move this to the Forum.
>
> Tina
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Chris Crawford <
> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>
>> The fact that you're a goodhearted woman who would never do that to  
>> your
>> husband doesn't change the fact that you still have a license to  
>> steal if
>> you wanted to. That wasn't such a concern for your generation,  
>> Tina. When
>> you got married, people respected their marriage vows, and each  
>> other.
>>
>> The women of my generation simply do not have that belief. They get  
>> bored,
>> they go screw someone else. Then they divorce the man and take most  
>> of
>> what he has. More than half of marriages in my age group  fail  
>> within 5
>> years, and 85% of divorces are filed by the women, not the men.  
>> When a
>> female attorney tells me that men are idiots for marrying today, I  
>> see no
>> reason why she would lie.
>>
>> Even my mother has told me that! She works with a lot of women who  
>> are my
>> age and younger, and she has told me that she is absolutely  
>> mortified by
>> their behaviour. She asked me recently why she keeps seeing young  
>> women
>> ditching good men for worthless scum. She finally understood why so  
>> many
>> decent men refuse to marry these days. Women can do what they want,  
>> its a
>> free country, and I would certainly not want the government telling  
>> people
>> who want to divorce that they cannot. At the same time, the laws  
>> are very
>> unjust, and men have the freedom to refuse to participate. I have  
>> met some
>> women who are good women, but they're all my mother's age.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Crawford
>> Fine Art Photography
>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>> 260-437-8990
>>
>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>
>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/30/12 5:59 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Whoa!  Sorry you guys have had a bad experience with marriage but  
>>> maybe
>>> you
>>> just picked the wrong women!  I don't think my husband would say  
>>> that
>>> marriage is a license for women to steal.  We share everything.   
>>> Marriage
>>> is wonderful when you choose the right partner.  We couldn't  
>>> imagine life
>>> without each other.  He is my other half and my best friend.
>>>
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You've learned an expensive lesson: Marriage is simply a license  
>>>> for
>>>> women
>>>> to steal. I've never, thank God, been married, but I've dealt  
>>>> with the
>>>> family-law system a lot over the years because I have a 15 year  
>>>> old son.
>>>> My attorney, who is a young woman, told me that any man who  
>>>> marries in
>>>> the
>>>> United States is as stupid as a chicken who would support Colonel
>>>> Sanders.
>>>> I've seen several friends with wives who cheated on them  
>>>> constantly,
>>>> then
>>>> left for another man, and the courts punished the husband for his  
>>>> wife's
>>>> whoring by letting the ex-wife steal everything he owned. My  
>>>> attorney
>>>> told
>>>> me that men get zero benefit from marriage.
>>>>
>>>> I got custody of my son 4 yrs ago. His mother has never and will  
>>>> never
>>>> pay
>>>> a dime of child support. The state couldn't care less. I don't  
>>>> care, I
>>>> don't need her money and am honestly happy that she leaves us  
>>>> alone (she
>>>> rarely sees our son, she lost interest in him after having a new  
>>>> baby).
>>>> My
>>>> ex got NOTHNG I owned when she decided to leave for some loser  
>>>> 'badboy',
>>>> because we were not married. All she got was child support during  
>>>> the
>>>> years she had custody of him.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>
>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/30/12 3:07 PM, "Ken Iisaka" <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Going through a very acrimonious divorce process, I just  
>>>>> received a
>>>> demand
>>>>> letter from my ex demanding all of my photographic equipment  
>>>>> acquired
>>>>> before the separation date. That includes numerous M bodies  
>>>>> including
>>>> an
>>>>> M8, and a bunch of lenses including some spectacular lenses like
>>>> Noctilux
>>>>> and APO Summicron 90mm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering that she has previously claimed highly inflated  
>>>>> values for
>>>> my
>>>>> equipment, I'm hoping that I would be able to get 50% of the value
>>>> towards
>>>>> a new set of equipment based on her valuation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at what I use the most, I think I'd be very happy with a  
>>>>> MM,
>>>>> APO-Summicron 50mm for most of my work, and Olympus OM-D E-M5  
>>>>> with a
>>>> few
>>>>> lenses for color work. In the film days, I used Leica  
>>>>> exclusively for
>>>> BW,
>>>>> and a Nikon for color. I look forward to these simpler days.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ken Iisaka
>>>>> first name at last name dot org or com
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
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>>>>> information
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
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