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Subject: [Leica] marriage
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 21:32:13 -0400

Luis, that reminds me of something one of my divorced friends always tells
people: "I don't see what's so bad about 50% of marriages ending in
divorce. The other 50% end up MUCH worse. They end in DEATH!"

-- 
Chris Crawford
Fine Art Photography
Fort Wayne, Indiana
260-437-8990

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On 5/30/12 7:11 PM, "Lluis Ripoll" <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com> wrote:

>Tina,
>
>Do you know the Groucho Marx quote "Marriage is the leading cause of
>divorces"
>
>Just a joke... but here too, is the same, many young marrieds are
>divorced a few years after. I don't know if this a consequence and a
>sign of our times, everything goes fast, everything is changing...
>
>Saludos
>Lluis
>
>
>
>El 31/05/2012, a las 1:03, Tina Manley escribi?:
>
>> That's what my son is telling me.  He has been living with his
>> girlfriend
>> for 7 years and they have just bought a house together!  When I ask
>> about
>> marriage, they both say that every friend they have who has gotten
>> married
>> has ended up divorced within a year or two.  They are actually
>> afraid of
>> marriage.  What has happened?  Why is marriage a threat instead of a
>> promise?
>>
>> Maybe we should move this to the Forum.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Chris Crawford <
>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The fact that you're a goodhearted woman who would never do that to
>>> your
>>> husband doesn't change the fact that you still have a license to
>>> steal if
>>> you wanted to. That wasn't such a concern for your generation,
>>> Tina. When
>>> you got married, people respected their marriage vows, and each
>>> other.
>>>
>>> The women of my generation simply do not have that belief. They get
>>> bored,
>>> they go screw someone else. Then they divorce the man and take most
>>> of
>>> what he has. More than half of marriages in my age group  fail
>>> within 5
>>> years, and 85% of divorces are filed by the women, not the men.
>>> When a
>>> female attorney tells me that men are idiots for marrying today, I
>>> see no
>>> reason why she would lie.
>>>
>>> Even my mother has told me that! She works with a lot of women who
>>> are my
>>> age and younger, and she has told me that she is absolutely
>>> mortified by
>>> their behaviour. She asked me recently why she keeps seeing young
>>> women
>>> ditching good men for worthless scum. She finally understood why so
>>> many
>>> decent men refuse to marry these days. Women can do what they want,
>>> its a
>>> free country, and I would certainly not want the government telling
>>> people
>>> who want to divorce that they cannot. At the same time, the laws
>>> are very
>>> unjust, and men have the freedom to refuse to participate. I have
>>> met some
>>> women who are good women, but they're all my mother's age.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Crawford
>>> Fine Art Photography
>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>> 260-437-8990
>>>
>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>
>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>
>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/30/12 5:59 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whoa!  Sorry you guys have had a bad experience with marriage but
>>>> maybe
>>>> you
>>>> just picked the wrong women!  I don't think my husband would say
>>>> that
>>>> marriage is a license for women to steal.  We share everything.
>>>> Marriage
>>>> is wonderful when you choose the right partner.  We couldn't
>>>> imagine life
>>>> without each other.  He is my other half and my best friend.
>>>>
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Chris Crawford <
>>>> chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You've learned an expensive lesson: Marriage is simply a license
>>>>> for
>>>>> women
>>>>> to steal. I've never, thank God, been married, but I've dealt
>>>>> with the
>>>>> family-law system a lot over the years because I have a 15 year
>>>>> old son.
>>>>> My attorney, who is a young woman, told me that any man who
>>>>> marries in
>>>>> the
>>>>> United States is as stupid as a chicken who would support Colonel
>>>>> Sanders.
>>>>> I've seen several friends with wives who cheated on them
>>>>> constantly,
>>>>> then
>>>>> left for another man, and the courts punished the husband for his
>>>>> wife's
>>>>> whoring by letting the ex-wife steal everything he owned. My
>>>>> attorney
>>>>> told
>>>>> me that men get zero benefit from marriage.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got custody of my son 4 yrs ago. His mother has never and will
>>>>> never
>>>>> pay
>>>>> a dime of child support. The state couldn't care less. I don't
>>>>> care, I
>>>>> don't need her money and am honestly happy that she leaves us
>>>>> alone (she
>>>>> rarely sees our son, she lost interest in him after having a new
>>>>> baby).
>>>>> My
>>>>> ex got NOTHNG I owned when she decided to leave for some loser
>>>>> 'badboy',
>>>>> because we were not married. All she got was child support during
>>>>> the
>>>>> years she had custody of him.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Chris Crawford
>>>>> Fine Art Photography
>>>>> Fort Wayne, Indiana
>>>>> 260-437-8990
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My portfolio
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.chriscrawfordphoto.com  My latest work!
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Christopher-Crawford/48229272798
>>>>> Become a fan on Facebook
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/30/12 3:07 PM, "Ken Iisaka" <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Going through a very acrimonious divorce process, I just
>>>>>> received a
>>>>> demand
>>>>>> letter from my ex demanding all of my photographic equipment
>>>>>> acquired
>>>>>> before the separation date. That includes numerous M bodies
>>>>>> including
>>>>> an
>>>>>> M8, and a bunch of lenses including some spectacular lenses like
>>>>> Noctilux
>>>>>> and APO Summicron 90mm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering that she has previously claimed highly inflated
>>>>>> values for
>>>>> my
>>>>>> equipment, I'm hoping that I would be able to get 50% of the value
>>>>> towards
>>>>>> a new set of equipment based on her valuation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking at what I use the most, I think I'd be very happy with a
>>>>>> MM,
>>>>>> APO-Summicron 50mm for most of my work, and Olympus OM-D E-M5
>>>>>> with a
>>>>> few
>>>>>> lenses for color work. In the film days, I used Leica
>>>>>> exclusively for
>>>>> BW,
>>>>>> and a Nikon for color. I look forward to these simpler days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ken Iisaka
>>>>>> first name at last name dot org or com
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>>>> www.tinamanley.com
>>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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