Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/05

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Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:50:18 -0400
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Absolutely. I didn't say always. In fact, I really don't like using
flash myself, but damning the flash to never be carried and relying
upon available light is sometimes just foolish for some situations.
Use the right tool for the job.

Phil Forrest


On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 20:47:17 -0400
Tina Manley <images at comporium.net> wrote:

> In my situations, I don't use flash because I prefer natural light,
> but also because flash draws attention to me.  I'm trying to be
> invisible.  A flash shouts "HERE I AM!!   STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND
> LOOK AT  ME!!
> 
> That's not what I want at all.
> 
> Tina
> 
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Phil <photo.forrest at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > But if you're using the camera for work in, say, Philadelphia City
> > Hall, you have to have the exposure dead-on because you can't ask
> > the mayor to pose again 'cause you f'ed up the "beautiful
> > flourescent and tungsten lit" shot by not using a flash.
> >
> > Often it's necessary for work.
> >
> > Phil Forrest
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:12:24 -0700
> > <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Richard Man offered:
> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Another M9 question
> > >
> > > >>In any case, now we will return to the expected "Why are you
> > > >>using a flash
> > > on the M?" vs. "I always use a flash" debate :-) <<<<<
> > >
> > > No No No there is no debate worth having! PERIOD AN ABSOLUTE
> > > WASTE OF TIME! Because using a flash with any M camera is an
> > > absolute waste of beautiful natural light motivating you in the
> > > first place to take a picture! It isn't the flash going poof
> > > destroying what you are seeing ... the for real light on the
> > > subject!
> > >
> > > For heaven sakes its' the light you see on your subject screaming
> > > at you to take the picture in the first place! Not the flash!
> > >
> > > DEBATE?  Ridiculous to even consider it in the first place.
> > >
> > > Hell one is either a photographer with the ability to see
> > > beautiful light and subjects working together and making an
> > > exposure to capture exactly what's making your belly squiggle
> > > with excitment at the scene before you to shoot! And once again,
> > > not the damn flash destroying what you are looking at!
> > >
> > > Dr. ted :-)
> > >
> > > Am I beginning to sound like an anti-flash person? ;-)
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> >
> 
> 



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