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Subject: [Leica] Another M9 question
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2010 16:42:21 -0700
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Phil offered:
Subject: Re: [Leica] Another M9 question
> But if you're using the camera for work in, say, Philadelphia City
> Hall, you have to have the exposure dead-on because you can't ask the
> mayor to pose again 'cause you f'ed up the "beautiful flourescent and
> tungsten lit" shot by not using a flash.<<<

>>>>>>>Often it's necessary for work. <<<<<

Hi Phil,
However if your shooting in the House of Commons of the Canadian Parliament 
Buildings you shoot with the light there, like it or not. Whether it be 
photos of the visiting USA President addressing Parliament or one of the 
MP's of Parliament.

So the quick fix? Push it to 1600 or 3200 and get on with capturing the 
moments. Shoot wide open and focus carefully. In effect use the widest 
possible aperture and highest possible shutter speed. Quite easy really. And 
you surely did not want to go back to the newspaper and say "I didn't get 
any pictures it was too dark!"

Besides as long as you can see your subject you can adjust the camera and or 
ASA settings and come back with quite useable photos.

And these days with any colour casts the Photoshop Wizard makes them go 
away! :-) See no flash! ;-)

And yes I agree there are times to use flash! However I bet 99.9% of the 
time very beautiful photos can be had without it.
cheers,
Dr. ted

>
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 15:12:24 -0700
> <tedgrant at shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>
>> Richard Man offered:
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Another M9 question
>>
>> >>In any case, now we will return to the expected "Why are you using
>> >>a flash
>> on the M?" vs. "I always use a flash" debate :-) <<<<<
>>
>> No No No there is no debate worth having! PERIOD AN ABSOLUTE WASTE OF
>> TIME! Because using a flash with any M camera is an absolute waste of
>> beautiful natural light motivating you in the first place to take a
>> picture! It isn't the flash going poof destroying what you are
>> seeing ... the for real light on the subject!
>>
>> For heaven sakes its' the light you see on your subject screaming at
>> you to take the picture in the first place! Not the flash!
>>
>> DEBATE?  Ridiculous to even consider it in the first place.
>>
>> Hell one is either a photographer with the ability to see beautiful
>> light and subjects working together and making an exposure to capture
>> exactly what's making your belly squiggle with excitment at the scene
>> before you to shoot! And once again, not the damn flash destroying
>> what you are looking at!
>>
>> Dr. ted :-)
>>
>> Am I beginning to sound like an anti-flash person? ;-)
>>
>>
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