Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/06/15

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Subject: [Leica] Lightroom 3
From: dstella1 at (Dante Stella)
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:07:24 -0400
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What?!  Lightroom 3?!  Sorry, I have been so busy working on a show of 
cyanotypes, reprogramming my Durst, and posting banal baby pictures to 
Facebook that I didn't notice the rollover to version 3.  That, and I 
actually made some progress on restoring a 1959 Seamaster my wife gave me 
for Christmas.  Oh, did I mention I also found a 50mm lens for my Fuji 6x9?

A hundred bucks?  Doesn't even register compared to the cost of Arches 
Acquarelle, 8-ply matboard, Similac ready-to-use ('cause I don't have the 
built-in feeding system), or having Omega refinish a dial.  Sheez; I just 
spent $7.50 on 750g of very-ordinary-looking non-organic cherries yesterday 
(maybe they make inkjet ink from these?!).

We have a rule around here that if it's smaller than a cellular bill, it's 
not worth worrying about.  Maybe it's been a good week, but getting bent out 
of shape about a $100 upgrade to a program you got for free (and for which 
M8 get to pay $300) seems like a waste of time.  If you're a pro, it pays 
for itself (or is a writeoff).  If you're an amateur, it's about 1.4 percent 
of the cost of an M9.  And in no case is it a "must."




On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:34 AM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> Clearly it's not about "affordability."
> It's about patience in waiting for what purchasers believed they already 
> paid for.
> If the camera arrived without a hundred dollar part said to be in the 
> package
> one wouldn't simply send a hundred dollars to acquire the part;
> but rather communicate with the suppliers to have the matter rectified.
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at
> On Jun 15, 2010, at 12:47 AM, Frank Dernie wrote:
>> I think you are being a bit harsh here Jayanand. I was already a 
>> lightroom user when bought my M9. It seems to me that part of what I paid 
>> for, as with other cameras, was RAW processing software, in Leica's case, 
>> Lightroom. I have an unused certificate sitting on my desk. My plan has 
>> always been to use it to get LR3, then give my LR2 license to my son.
>> If I did not have the certificate I would have already bought the upgrade 
>> and my son would be missing out.
>> I think I am one of several on this list feeling the same way. It does 
>> not mean I could not afford my M9.
>> cheers,
>> Frank D
>> On 15 Jun, 2010, at 05:12, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
>>> Geoff,
>>> I am in the financial sector, I deal with peoples savings on a day to
>>> day basis and if my clients were worried about spending US$99, I would
>>> advocate against them buying an M9 in the first place, or selling the
>>> M9 they cannot afford to own, not worry about an upgrade that it is
>>> not even essential. That is the reality of the financial implications
>>> of your message.
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Highly amusing and 'bitching' is pretty tough commenting on the people
>>>> asking maybe Jayanand.
>>>> I agree that the upgrade price is reasonable (and I'd pay anyway if 
>>>> needed)
>>>> but why pay if it is unnecessary?
>>>> I think that you are somewhere in the financial sector aren't you? 
>>>> You're
>>>> not advocating that people waste money, I'm sure.
>>>> The situation is already clear.
>>>> Anyone who has purchased an LR2 licence previously can pay the upgrade 
>>>> price
>>>> to get an LR3 licence.
>>>> If you purchased a licence previously AND have not used your Leica 
>>>> serial
>>>> number and TAN then you can either get an extra LR2 licence today (so 
>>>> you
>>>> could install on more than two computers if desired)  or otherwise 
>>>> dispose
>>>> of that extra licence as you wish (subject to whatever the EULA says)
>>>> If you have not used your Leica serial number and TAN  to download then 
>>>> just
>>>> wait a little longer and you will be able to use them to download LR3. 
>>>> Leica
>>>> Camera already indicated this on an offical site.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Geoff
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Replies: Reply from hopsternew at (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Reply from mark at (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
In reply to: Message from drodgers at (David Rodgers) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from at (Douglas Sharp) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from gregj_lorenzo at (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from jayanand at (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from hopsternew at (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from jayanand at (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from Frank.Dernie at (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)
Message from imagist3 at (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] Lightroom 3)