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Subject: [Leica] Medical Advice
From: olivegm3 at yahoo.ca (joe leung)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:17:17 -0700 (PDT)
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Tina,

Dr. Joseph Yao is in charge of a?emergency unit in Hong Kong. He must have 
seen thousands of cases like yours. He should be able to throw some light on 
your condition. Anyway, I wish you a speedy recovery.
?
Joe Leung




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From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Wed, April 28, 2010 5:24:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Medical Advice

Thanks, everybody.? I'm calling my knee doctor tomorrow.? Better safe than
sorry!? Right now, I'm taking a sleeping pill and going to bed.? Tomorrow
the house movers will be here at 7 to let the house down onto the basement!

Tina

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Robert D. Baron <rbaron at 
concentric.net>wrote:

> I almost said something the day you reported the accident but I didn't
> want to jinx you.
>
> I'm not a doctor but many years ago as a young lawyer I handled a lot
> of car wreck cases.? I learned from the docs that when you have this
> type of trauma there is a lot of stretching and tearing of the deep
> muscle tissue and then there is some internal scarring and associated
> pain in said muscle tissue. I hate the word whiplash - it was used
> over and over, derogatorily,? by insurance companies and their lawyers
> to make juries think plaintiffs really aren't hurt - but it does
> accurately describe the stretching forces that are at work.
>
> Hopefully it will go away in a reasonable length of time, but this is
> (sadly) exactly the result I expected you to report.
>
> I think Dr. Steve is absolutely correct.? You need to be seen by a
> competent M.D. or D.O. sooner rather than later, and appropriate xrays
> need to be made and interpreted and appropriate drugz and physical
> therapy may be prescribed.
>
> Putting my lawyer hat back on for a second - even though I'm
> definitely no longer young -? my advice then and now is never settle
> a claim until some time has elapsed and you are certain as to the
> nature and extent and duration of the injury.
>
> In your particular instance I would suggest considering a consultation
> with your orthopedist to make sure nothing in your new shiny knees
> became deranged.? The dynamics inside the vehicle at the time and
> immediately after impact are such that a lot of stress is put on the
> legs, whether or not they hit the dashboard or anything else, and I
> would have myself checked out.
>
> Orthopedists understand these dynamics and force direction - they are
> in part engineers - so make an appointment.
>
> We'll hope this is just a soft tissue injury but that can still be
> deep and painful so take it easy and get thee to a good physician.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --Bob
>
> ===On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Steve Barbour
> <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Ric Carter wrote:
> >
> >> the adrenaline rush MASKS pain and much of the soreness takes a few
> hours to show itself.
> >>
> >> On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>
> >>> I know there are lots of medical people on the LUG and I need some
> advice.
> >>> I was in a wreck Monday - smashed from the rear into a dump truck in
> front
> >>> - so two big jolts.? The car is several feet shorter.? At the time, I
> didn't
> >>> think I was hurt at all.? Tom had whip lash.? Both of us had our seat
> belts
> >>> on.? Today I can barely move.? All of my joints hurt so bad!? Nothing
> is
> >>> bruised.? The only connection I can imagine to the wreck is a very sore
> >>> shoulder from the seatbelt.? It's my artificial knees that hurt the
> most.? I
> >>> can't put any weight on them, so I can't get up and down.? Is there
> >>> something like residual soreness from an adrenaline rush?? I went back
> to
> >>> Rock Hill and soaked in a jacuzzi for about an hour, but then I
> couldn't get
> >>> out!? I was there by myself and it took me longer to get out than I
> spent
> >>> soaking.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this will be gone tomorrow!!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >
> > I agree with Ric...
> >
> >
> > likely the soreness is related to the crash... deep musculoskeletal pain,
> soreness, bruising...secondary to the incident, related to whiplash and
> associated deep trauma....
> >
> > I'd get checked out by a competent MD, do have the complaints and
> findings well documented in the medical record for your insurance 
> company...
> >
> > not surprising, your complaints sound bothersome and collectible,? often
> evolving with time, initially occult, and somewhat masked by the adrenaline
> surge, and other things.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com

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In reply to: Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
Message from ricc at embarqmail.com (Ric Carter) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
Message from rbaron at concentric.net (Robert D. Baron) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
Message from images at comporium.net (Tina Manley) ([Leica] Medical Advice)