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Subject: [Leica] Medical Advice
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:24:12 -0400
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Thanks, everybody.  I'm calling my knee doctor tomorrow.  Better safe than
sorry!  Right now, I'm taking a sleeping pill and going to bed.  Tomorrow
the house movers will be here at 7 to let the house down onto the basement!

Tina

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Robert D. Baron <rbaron at 
concentric.net>wrote:

> I almost said something the day you reported the accident but I didn't
> want to jinx you.
>
> I'm not a doctor but many years ago as a young lawyer I handled a lot
> of car wreck cases.  I learned from the docs that when you have this
> type of trauma there is a lot of stretching and tearing of the deep
> muscle tissue and then there is some internal scarring and associated
> pain in said muscle tissue. I hate the word whiplash - it was used
> over and over, derogatorily,  by insurance companies and their lawyers
> to make juries think plaintiffs really aren't hurt - but it does
> accurately describe the stretching forces that are at work.
>
> Hopefully it will go away in a reasonable length of time, but this is
> (sadly) exactly the result I expected you to report.
>
> I think Dr. Steve is absolutely correct.  You need to be seen by a
> competent M.D. or D.O. sooner rather than later, and appropriate xrays
> need to be made and interpreted and appropriate drugz and physical
> therapy may be prescribed.
>
> Putting my lawyer hat back on for a second - even though I'm
> definitely no longer young -   my advice then and now is never settle
> a claim until some time has elapsed and you are certain as to the
> nature and extent and duration of the injury.
>
> In your particular instance I would suggest considering a consultation
> with your orthopedist to make sure nothing in your new shiny knees
> became deranged.  The dynamics inside the vehicle at the time and
> immediately after impact are such that a lot of stress is put on the
> legs, whether or not they hit the dashboard or anything else, and I
> would have myself checked out.
>
> Orthopedists understand these dynamics and force direction - they are
> in part engineers - so make an appointment.
>
> We'll hope this is just a soft tissue injury but that can still be
> deep and painful so take it easy and get thee to a good physician.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --Bob
>
> ===On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Steve Barbour
> <steve.barbour at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 28, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Ric Carter wrote:
> >
> >> the adrenaline rush MASKS pain and much of the soreness takes a few
> hours to show itself.
> >>
> >> On Apr 28, 2010, at 6:00 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
> >>
> >>> I know there are lots of medical people on the LUG and I need some
> advice.
> >>> I was in a wreck Monday - smashed from the rear into a dump truck in
> front
> >>> - so two big jolts.  The car is several feet shorter.  At the time, I
> didn't
> >>> think I was hurt at all.  Tom had whip lash.  Both of us had our seat
> belts
> >>> on.  Today I can barely move.  All of my joints hurt so bad!  Nothing
> is
> >>> bruised.  The only connection I can imagine to the wreck is a very sore
> >>> shoulder from the seatbelt.  It's my artificial knees that hurt the
> most.  I
> >>> can't put any weight on them, so I can't get up and down.  Is there
> >>> something like residual soreness from an adrenaline rush?  I went back
> to
> >>> Rock Hill and soaked in a jacuzzi for about an hour, but then I
> couldn't get
> >>> out!  I was there by myself and it took me longer to get out than I
> spent
> >>> soaking.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this will be gone tomorrow!!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >
> > I agree with Ric...
> >
> >
> > likely the soreness is related to the crash... deep musculoskeletal pain,
> soreness, bruising...secondary to the incident, related to whiplash and
> associated deep trauma....
> >
> > I'd get checked out by a competent MD, do have the complaints and
> findings well documented in the medical record for your insurance 
> company...
> >
> > not surprising, your complaints sound bothersome and collectible,  often
> evolving with time, initially occult, and somewhat masked by the adrenaline
> surge, and other things.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
>
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-- 
Tina Manley, ASMP
www.tinamanley.com


Replies: Reply from olivegm3 at yahoo.ca (joe leung) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
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Message from steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour) ([Leica] Medical Advice)
Message from rbaron at concentric.net (Robert D. Baron) ([Leica] Medical Advice)