[Leica] Advice wanted for carry camera

[passaro.vince at gmail.com (Vince Passaro)]

Well just to confuse matters further here's dpreview early look at the
Samsung NX-10 with 30mm pancake it's smaller thana G1 but larger than the
Olympus EP-1 though only about 5mm thicker. So here might be a pocketable
viewfinder 1.5 crop camera. I would think it's certainly as pocketable as a
Leica IIIc.

Mark, I agree with your numbers but you're flying in the wrong air show: he
has a Canon point and shoot now can't remember the model number. He wants to
improve on it. A G11 would -- massively -- improve on it. He wants it to fit
in his pocket. Otherwise Christ he should get a D3x -- like the size and
weight of one's enemy's head.

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:25 AM, James Laird <digiratidoc at gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Vince/Mark,
>
> I've just read a rumor that Panasonic is planning a new better
> viewfinder for the GF-1. If the rumors are true he may want to wait
> 'cause the GF-1 with an accessory finder as good as the G1 finder
> might just be what he needs. Hell I might even buy one! (Mind you it's
> just a rumor;)
>
> Jim
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:08 PM, Vince Passaro <passaro.vince at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Also if Mark's right that Larry (probably sleeping but we need him back
> in
> > the thread...) needs a 1.5 sensor then how about that new samsung?
> > (exchangeable lenses/live view finder).  there was a thread a few days
> ago
> > following the the NY Times review of it.
> >
> > And Mark, note that yes in the past he had a IIIc and Rollei 35 and even
> a
> > Minox but lately he's been getting along with a Canon point and shoot
> well
> > below the level of other cameras we're talking about here.  He's asking
> for
> > advice finding something better than that -- not better than or even
> equal
> > to a Leica IIIc.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:00 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> > Vince,
> >> >
> >> > I like my G11 a lot, but I almost NEVER use the optical viewfinder.
> >> > It's squinty and not very clear even with diopter correction and gives
> >> > you an incredibly poor idea of the actual field of view of the lens.
> >> > IMHO, it's worthless, except as an emergency finder when bright
> >> > sunlight or some other factor makes the LCD impossible to use. That's
> >> > why I bought my GH1. Well actually I bought it so I could use my Leica
> >> > and Nikon glass, but the viewfinder was the bonus that sealed the deal
> >> > for me.
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >>
> >> I agree Jim.
> >> Below is Larry Z's original post. Long lost in a flurry of mini camrea
> >> posts.
> >> He used to carry a  Leica IIIC or a Rollei 35.
> >> These were cameras which could be used on real photo jobs and were
> 24x36mm
> >> format and were otherwise taken seriously and could produce competitive
> >> results.
> >> The ones being mentioned on this thread are worthy of mentioning in the
> >> same
> >> paragraph as  a IIIC.
> >> You'll find them at the bottom of a pros camera bag as a backup the
> 4/3's
> >> cameras or smaller.
> >> They don't head out and do a job with one.
> >> He's looking for a small camrea with a nice sized sensor.
> >> Id think a 1.5 crop factor at the minimum.
> >>
> >> The sensor on his current one is a 1/2.3
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > For the last 50 years I've carried a camera with me most of the time
> and
> >> > react almost instantly to a photo op. The camera has to be pocket
> sized
> >> so
> >> > that it won't interfere with whatever else I am doing. For years it
> was
> >> an
> >> > old Leica IIIc with a 35 mm f2.8 Canon lens or a 50 mm Elmar that
> could
> >> fit
> >> > into the side pocket of a windbreaker. When I traveled it was usually
> a
> >> > Rollei 35 in a small belt holster. I even carried a Minox when I wore
> a
> >> suit
> >> > and tie. True, I owned bigger and more professional equipment which I
> >> used
> >> > when I had to take serious pictures but they were usually too bulky to
> >> carry
> >> > everyday. But for a variety of reasons I gave up my wet darkroom and
> my
> >> film
> >> > cameras became too inconvenient to use. Now I carry a wafer thin Canon
> >> > SD1200IS. It has a 10 MP sensor and is smaller and lighter than any of
> >> the
> >> > others (except the Minox).
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > The big problem is that when I post pictures to the LUG, I can see
> >> obvious
> >> > quality differences between my pocket cameras and the M8 and M9 Leicas
> >> and
> >> > DSLR's that most Luggers use. What I would like is suggestions for a
> >> carry
> >> > digital camera that will close the gap. I don't expect M9 quality but
> I
> >> > don't want to be embarrassed either. My criteria are the the camera
> has
> >> to
> >> > be smaller and much lighter than a Barnack Leica and have an optical
> >> > viewfinder. The optical finder is necessary because I wear bifocals
> and
> >> have
> >> > to bob my head up and down like a pigeon when using a LCD camera
> screen.
> >> I'm
> >> > not sure if any of the new 4/3 cameras will fill the bill but I'm not
> >> > opposed to the format. I own an Olympus DSLR and I find it more than
> >> > adequate. The problem is that I live more than 50 miles from any large
> >> > camera store and I don't get to see and handle any of the newer
> compact
> >> > cameras.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Can any Lugger offer suggestions for a good carry camera?
> >>
> >>
> >> Larry Z
> >>
> >> [Rabs]
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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