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Subject: [Leica] difference between documentarian and documented
From: jsmith342 at gmail.com (Jeffery Smith)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:57:28 -0500
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I agree completely. Putting oneself in a public place has implicit the 
expectation to be seen (and maybe captured on film). And many of the 
Pulitzer Prize winning photographs were taken of events in which some of the 
people would have rather not been photographed, but you have to be 
acountable for your own behavior in public.

This documentary photo always comes to mind.

http://tinyurl.com/cmj58j

Jeffery

On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:51 PM, George Lottermoser wrote:

> Jeffery you take me back to my days of teaching at Columbia College 
> Chicago.
> Damn. I miss the classroom a whole lot. I loved interacting with those 
> kids.
> They taught me every bit or more than I could offer them
> (with a few exceptions in both directions).
> 
> Your points about privacy in the class room are of course well taken.
> The same holds true for any number of other private venues.
> 
> Yet documentary work on the public streets remains a different case 
> entirely.
> We'd assume that most people have prepared themselves to "be seen" in 
> public;
> if not also photographed. And so far, for the moment, we still have the 
> right to document
> public life; and I believe also work to preserve that right; with or 
> without press credentials.
> 
> Regards,
> George Lottermoser
> george at imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com
> http://www.imagist.com/blog
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
> 
> On Mar 20, 2010, at 2:25 PM, Jeffery Smith wrote:
> 
>> They also don't have a heads-up and some don't have their finest makeup 
>> on. But some are truly camera-averse. I have several shots of the top of 
>> someone's head. They didn't want the front of their head photographed (so 
>> I learned their names by the tops of their heads).
>> 
>> And some of the students may have outstanding warrants or illegal 
>> activity in their lives. I have had several prostitutes in my past 
>> classes, and they weren't the high class escort variety. One or more of 
>> my students has had to drop due to incarceration every year. My three 
>> valid reasons for a student missing a string of classes are (1) 
>> hospitalization, (2) active military duty, and (3) being in jail. Drugs, 
>> prostitution, bad checks, etc. are not uncommon in big cities with 
>> economic woes.
> 
> 
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