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Subject: [Leica] 28mm Summicron + M8 on Auto = Overexposure?
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:25:47 +0530
References: <30db39f20910241948h67e11661g33fdbbdf2acb6bc5@mail.gmail.com> <30db39f20910250840r3cc5c8degb63bb8baac38b10e@mail.gmail.com> <F8F250C4B6BD409E97925EB9F6C39893@jimnichols>

Jim,
Why don't you look at the histogram and keep adjusting the exposure,
by exposing to the right, i.e. exposing for the highlights. The RAW
picture will look washed out, but can be adjusted very easily in the
RAW converter. The camera exposure meter is just a starting point
nowadays, when we can precisely tune exposure using a histogram.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net> 
wrote:
> Thanks, Bob. ?I don't know exactly how the M8 and my Oly 4/3 compare with
> respect to exposure compensation, but, after reading comments from other M8
> users about using -2/3, I set that same adjustment on my E-510 and it works
> out pretty close. ?I make final adjustments in the RAW converter.
>
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert D. Baron" <rbaron at 
> concentric.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] 28mm Summicron + M8 on Auto = Overexposure?
>
>
>> Jim Nichols responded:
>>
>>> Since the posted images are jpegs, I was just curious as to whether the
>>> image was shot RAW or jpeg?<
>>
>> RAW; I almost always shoot RAW only with the M8 because it processes
>> through the buffer to the card a lot faster that way.
>>
>> ..................................................
>>
>> Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>
>>> I've never used not heard of a digital camera that didn't need to be
>>> dialed
>>
>> down a bit. I dial most of mine a full or almost a full stop.<
>>
>> I generally set the EV at -1/3; I'm afraid of underexposing shadows
>> which will then have a lot of noise in them.
>>
>> .................................................
>>
>> Ric Carter said:
>>
>>> metering pattern is different for each focal length
>>
>> the M7 manual has pattern illustrations.<
>>
>> How does the M7 know what the focal length is?
>>
>> Since I get more accurate automatic exposure using the M8 with a
>> longer lens (35, 50, 75) than I do with a wider lens (28, 15) I assume
>> there is some interplay between the lens and the meter coverage; I'm
>> just curious as to what/how/why.
>>
>> ................................................
>>
>> Frank Fillipone offered:
>>
>>> I think Mark is right..... set it for -2/3 exposure and continue using
>>> the
>>
>> camera.... then figure out if that is right for you....
>>
>> BTW, I think it was Tina that said she always underexposed, then expanded
>> the image using LR.<<
>>
>> See my response to Mark; I'm afraid of too much shadow with too much
>> noise.
>>
>> .............................................
>>
>> I think the basic answer though is to simply remember that the M8
>> slightly overexposes when using wider lenses and adjust the settings
>> accordingly when changing lenses. ?That will certainly adhere to the
>> KISS principle. ?Now if I can just remember......
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>>
>> --Bob
>>
>> ====On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 9:48 PM, Robert D. Baron
>> <rbaron at concentric.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been trying to decide what and why is going on here. The 28mm
>>> Summicron, when used on my M8 set on automatic, is slightly
>>> overexposing the "frame".
>>>
>>> See http://www.bobbaron.com/28CronOct09/index.html .
>>>
>>> The first frame is out of the camera at ISO 320, -1/3 EV (stop)
>>> exposure. It is washed out. The second frame is the same image
>>> adjusted down another half stop in Lightroom and is a lot closer to
>>> what a correct exposure should be.
>>>
>>> Do wider lenses throw the metering off somehow?
>>>
>>> I can take some of the pain out of this obviously by setting the
>>> camera to expose at -2/3 rather than -1/3 when I use this lens, but
>>> I'm just curious as to what is going on.
>>>
>>> The lens is pretty nice; the third frame is a 100% crop (also iso 320)
>>> with a little more tweaking in Lightroom.
>>>
>>> --Bob
>>>
>>
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