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Subject: [Leica] speaking of cars... wayback
From: filippini at theramp.net (The Filippini Family, Matt & Blaise)
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 11:49:10 -0400 (EDT)
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Ah, twin Strombergs- the bane of my existence when I had my 1974-1/2 MGB. 
My beauty of a 1990 Miata gives me no such problems.

Matt

> Not a Jensen Healey, but here's Barbara, my 1956 Austin Healey and me in
> 1959.
>
> A lot of fun but what a pain in the neck to fix... damn Strombergs and
> even more damned Whitworth threads!
>
> http://www.hemenway.com/AustinHealey.jpg
>
> Jim, "I haven't looked like that for such a long time." Hemenway
>
>
>
> Robert Clark wrote:
>> I used to drive my uncle's 1974 Jensen Healey...with the Lotus engine, a
>> Vauxhaul gearbox (I believe), along with two Stromberg carbs...like a
>> little rocket and I always loved it. Was my intro to what a sports car
>> was and I've never gotten over it! Being 17, driving that with the cute
>> girl down the road, and feeling the acceleration of the car was magical!
>>
>> Robert Clark
>> Lancaster, PA
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Dernie"
>> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] speaking of cars violently OT
>>
>>
>>> Try an Elise.
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> On 11 Jul, 2009, at 06:06, Adam Bridge wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had a Lotus S2 - two 2-barrel Webers. It was a RIP to drive but
>>>> needed
>>>> lots of TLC as cars of that era did.
>>>> I loved the close-ratio gearbox and how it would leap ahead with the
>>>> slightest urging. Stopped darn well too!
>>>>
>>>> Of course it would never pass today's crash tests but I'd love a
>>>> modern
>>>> Lotus roadster to be a retake on the Elan. The top can leak, that's
>>>> okay!
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Frank Dernie
>>>> <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Elan S4 was a favourite of mine. It had Stromberg carbs which
>>>>> gave more
>>>>> power and broader torque band than the more fashionable Webers, and
>>>>> better
>>>>> fuel consumption. It was surprisingly roomy for such a tiny light
>>>>> car.
>>>>> Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 Jul, 2009, at 00:42, Jerry Lehrer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dennis und Frank
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The original Europa mit Renault engine was a dog!   But the original
>>>>>> Elite, if it had modern brakes would really be
>>>>>> a windy road car.  The Elan S2 when de-bugged is a superb handling
>>>>>> car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I've used them all
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jerry Lehrer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dennis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Frank,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wondered your thoughts on Lotus' road cars. I  had a Europa
>>>>>>> Special and
>>>>>>> it is a marvel. Very light, incredible suspension, and so
>>>>>>> responsive. I
>>>>>>> thought Colin Chapman brilliant and was stunned at his premature
>>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I could never afford one of todays 'supercars' but if I could I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> likely own a Lotus and use some of that "leftover" money for a
>>>>>>> worthy cause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree the Veyron is an ugly piece ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, Lotus aside, what do  you make of the Ariel Atom?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dennis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Frank Dernie wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pagani Zonda.
>>>>>>>> For "frequent" use Ferrari 599.
>>>>>>>> For daily use Porsche 911 turbo.
>>>>>>>> For pure driving Lotus anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are lots of cars about which have fancy styling and are "2
>>>>>>>> seat
>>>>>>>> limos" with loads of kit, weight and electronic driving aids to
>>>>>>>> make them
>>>>>>>> easy to drive for less good drivers.
>>>>>>>> These are great pose-mobiles and practical for a rich person of
>>>>>>>> limited
>>>>>>>> talent to show-off in.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I may have left some out, I am neither wealthy enough nor
>>>>>>>> interested
>>>>>>>> enough to study in detail. Weight is the most important chassis
>>>>>>>> parameter
>>>>>>>> for performance. Road cars are to a great extent a fashion item
>>>>>>>> and image
>>>>>>>> statement. Published stuff tends to be acceleration and top
>>>>>>>> speed. It is
>>>>>>>> possible to get impressive figures for these without much chassis
>>>>>>>> sophistication at all. Since weight is currently not something
>>>>>>>> fashionable
>>>>>>>> to minimise "supercars" are now as heavy as trucks, hence no
>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>> supercars IMO. This Bugatti thing weighs the same as 2 Ford GT40s!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To put perspective on this, +10kg on a F1 car loses over 0.3
>>>>>>>> secs per
>>>>>>>> lap.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Frank
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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