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Subject: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question
From: len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier)
Date: Thu Dec 11 06:43:53 2008
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Seth, Your new articles sound scrumptious. Two great lenses. Can't wait.

Thanks for the tip on the Summaron. I never considered it before.

Len


On Dec 11, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Seth Rosner wrote:

> Thanks Len; it was real fun doing those tests - I'm working on a  
> second VF article of tests done by Optikos of the 50/2 DR  
> Summicron, the 60/2,8 Macro-Elmarit and
> - ta-da - the Alpa Kern 50/1,9 Macro-Switar.
>
> Go ahead and buy a 35/2,8 Summaron, you won't regret it. Even at  
> $600.-850.US they are lots less expensive than new Leica lenses and  
> they will give you stunnung results and still continue to serve for  
> decades. Make sure you get one whose optical and mechanical  
> functions are flawless - don't worry about cosmetics so long as  
> they don't suggest a lens that has been used hard. And I would  
> limit my search to lenses above ser # 19xxxxx; somewhere around  
> there Leitz improved the coating of all of their lenses. We read  
> about it mostly with respect to the contemporary 50/2 Summicrons.  
> But I believe they did it across their lens lines. It is even worth  
> sending a lens to Don Goldberg or John Van Stelten for one of them  
> to check and CLA - if necessary. I've sent lenses to each of them  
> and had them returned to me with the comment: "checked out fine"  
> and a very nominal charge + mailing.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Seth
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leonard Taupier"  
> <len-001@verizon.net>
> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question
>
>
>> Seth,
>>
>> Your review in VF Vol 37 No 4 is very impressive. It's probably the
>> most comprehension review of any lens I've ever seen. After you
>> mentioned the 2.8 Summaron I went searching the web for it. Yup it's
>> gotten up there in price. I wish I had one as that generation of
>> Leica lenses give me the look I really like.
>>
>> Len
>>
>>
>> On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Seth Rosner wrote:
>>
>>> Greg, it is why eBay prices for the 35/2,8 Summaron have risen
>>> recently. The 3/4 sensor eliminates the corner fall-off in both
>>> resolution and contrast and reduces to a hardly perceptible minimum
>>> this lens' field curvature. Not owning an M8 (yet) I cannot confirm
>>> my opinon that this lens will now outperform the 35 Summicrons
>>> right up until the ASPH version while preserving the well-known
>>> Leica look of the period. The legend that this lens lacks contrast
>>> is simply untrue. And stopped down to 5,6, it is not too far from
>>> the ASPH version. See VIEWFINDER Vol 37 No 4, pp 39-40.
>>>
>>> Seth
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Lorenzo"
>>> <gregj_lorenzo@hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Leica Users Group LUG" <lug@leica-users.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:50 PM
>>> Subject: RE: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The 35 I'd use would have to have the right look (for me). This
>>> probably means not the latest version of Leica's current 35mm lens
>>> line.
>>>
>>> Greg Lorenzo
>>> Calgary, Canada> Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:44:52 -0500> Subject:
>>> Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question> From:
>>> mark@rabinergroup.com> To: lug@leica-users.org> > If you're used to
>>> 50's then with an M8 I'd find a nice 35 to have be your> favorite
>>> lens.> 35 * 1.33> = 46.55> > > A 50 gives you 65. Not so much an
>>> "all around" lens.> > > > mark@rabinergroup.com> Mark William
>>> Rabiner> > > > > From: Alan Magayne-Roshak <amr3@uwm.edu>> > Reply-
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>> > Date: Tue, 9 Dec
>>> 2008 23:25:52 -0600 (CST)> > To: lug <lug@leica-users.org>> >
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question> > > > Original
>>> Message:> >> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 16:52:43 -0500> >> From: Leonard
>>> Taupier <len-001@verizon.net>> > > >> The 50mm collapsible
>>> Summicron has absolutely no problem when> >> collapsed on the M8
>>> body. The clearance from the end of the collapsed> >> mount to the
>>> M8 shutter is about 1/2". I don't know about the 90mm> >> Elmar.
>>> But if you have the lens just measure the distance from the> >>
>>> mount to the end of the collapsed lens. The M8 flange to shutter>
>>> >> distance is about 31/32". If the collapsed lens is 3/4" or
>>> greater> >> from mount to end I probably would not collapse it when
>>> on the M8. In> >> any case I have a few collapsible lenses with
>>> adequate clearance but> >> always keep them extended as leica
>>> recommends. The 90mm macro which> >> Leica says is OK does not
>>> extend pass the lens mount at all.> >
>>> __________________________________________________________________>
>>> > Thanks for the information(Nathan too).> > > > I have collapsible
>>> Summicrons in both bayonet and LTM, plus the 90 Elmar> >
>>> collapsible, and I use that feature all the time, so I wondered if
>>> these would> > work if I won the lottery and was able to get an
>>> M8. ;~)> > > > > > Alan> > > > Alan Magayne-Roshak, Senior
>>> Photographer> > UPAA POY 1978> > University Information Technology
>>> Services> > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee> > http://
>>> gallery.leica-users.org/v/Alan+Magayne-Roshak/> > > > > > > > > >
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In reply to: Message from amr3 at uwm.edu (Alan Magayne-Roshak) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)
Message from gregj_lorenzo at hotmail.com (Greg Lorenzo) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)
Message from sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)
Message from len-001 at verizon.net (Leonard Taupier) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)
Message from sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner) ([Leica] M-lenses on M8 - A Question)