Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/11/18

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Subject: [Leica] "Life" Magazine photo archive hosted by Google
From: abridge at gmail.com (Adam Bridge)
Date: Tue Nov 18 19:10:42 2008
References: <4cfa589b0811181521g7d0f1526m717333ebd149e58a@mail.gmail.com> <B3149572F7884DDD9B9D51EF0541BB5F@opportunity> <D84953F5288C4C46BFF0D885E27AE8F3@dadquad> <200811190106.BEE36201@rg4.comporium.net> <D15F68A913E9418CAF3DD88EB71954C5@dadquad> <200811190134.BGE57971@rg5.comporium.net> <21AEAB18-FA30-4DD0-AD44-4901949EB230@gmail.com>

I would suggest forwarding inquires to Google about these issues. If
there are reasons for conspiracy theories we'd have a better picture
then. Making assertions without any sort of dialog with Google does no
one any service at all.

Adam

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 7:05 PM, lug <leowesson@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tina,
>
> I'm guessing that there is some funny stuff going on.  Example:  if you
> search for the Migrant Mother by MB White you get the famous photo that you
> would expect but there is a Time copyright symbol in the bottom corner of
> the page and there is a "life" watermark on the image, but in fact the 
> image
> is property of the public as it was shot for the FSA.  Another interesting
> thing is that there is no metadata in the downloaded jpg which is pretty
> much not how it's supposed to be done.
>
> Leo
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2008, at 7:34 PM, Tina Manley wrote:
>
>> At 08:23 PM 11/18/2008, you wrote:
>>>
>>> And Tina, fair to note my comment too that people are largely unprepared
>>> to
>>> pay for any sort of content, wherever that payment belongs.  On the
>>> previous
>>> archive that was on a Life site, I recall that it was only the covers
>>> that
>>> were available. I assumed that Life originally purchased the publishing
>>> rights for those at the time?
>>> Geoff
>>
>> More than likely most of the photographers were under contract to Life,
>> and at that time, signed a work for hire agreement turning over all rights
>> to the magazine.  Back then, work for hire was a reasonable proposition
>> since photographers also received a salary and all benefits, as any other
>> contract employees would.  Today that is by far the exception rather than
>> the rule.  Almost no photographers receive salaries or benefits and are
>> still expected to sign over any rights for work for hire jobs.  ASMP 
>> advices
>> all photographers to refuse work for hire agreements.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> Tina Manley
>> www.tinamanley.com
>>
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