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Subject: [Leica] DMR and RAW converters
From: hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Tue Nov 4 05:18:28 2008
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See the smilie.
Of course, not all trips are to places quite so exotic as Antarctica or the
Masai Mara. 
The hyperdrive thingies look great, the best back up device of their type I
have read about. 
Aren't all PCs in Antarctica running Linux? Think about it ;-) 
I do expect to find some internet coverage myself in the icefloes and
glaciers of San Francisco next month ;-)
Just got a compatible USB wireless modem for mobile network coverage in
fact. A good option when you can't obtain some Wi-Fi.
A laptop lets you share pictures when travelling too as well as plays/burns
DVDs of course.

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR and RAW converters

Can you do those on a trip to Antartica? Would you even want to ???
Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Geoff Hopkinson
<hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>wrote:

> I'll take three!
> But can it get my LUG mail, surf to eBay and run Photoshop??? ;-)
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR and RAW converters
>
> Alastair,
> Get a couple of these for trips, and do not take the laptop:
>
> http://www.hyperdrive.com/
>
> I have the Colorspace model, with the 2.2" screen, and it is fast & 
> reliable. When the hard drive is full, just replace the drive, and put 
> away the original as a permanent backup.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Alastair Firkin <afirkin@afirkin.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The DMR files are pretty large: means less fit on the onboard sd 
> > card as well. They are dng, but do not use the M8's "compression". I 
> > keep them as Leica DMR RAW: I think my external disc and back up 
> > will be big enough, and I'll take some DVD'S.
> >
> > I have used LR (which is camera Raw 4.6 I think, but every now and 
> > then someone including Leica talk about Capture one as being 
> > "superior" in some way.
> >
> > Don't be jealous, get on board ;-) Actually, I suspect if the Aussie 
> > Dollar languishes in its current hole this might spell the end of 
> > expensive trips for me for a little while. I'm not sure my soul 
> > could not cope with a trip to the US at 50c again!!!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --- hoppyman@bigpond.net.au wrote:
> >
> > From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:46:24 +1000
> >
> > Alastair, just keep your Raw files and you can experiment at leisure 
> > with different converters later if you want. If you convert to DNG 
> > you will not lose any information anyway. For the M8 of course that 
> > is what you will have anyway. The only disadvantage for a non-Leica 
> > camera would be that the camera maker's proprietary software would 
> > not read them. Although you can embed the Raw file in the DNG as 
> > well that will make it larger and gain you nothing for during the trip.
> > We can talk more about Raw converters when you return. Absolutely 
> > nothing lost in the meantime.
> > Oh and I'm insanely jealous once again about this new trip. Watch 
> > out for amorous leopard seals. Don't wear your seal coloured fur coat
either.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> > Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman 
> > <lug-bounces%2Bhoppyman><lug-bounces%2Bhoppyman>=
> bigpond.net.au@
> > leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> > Alastair Firkin
> > Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:35
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> >
> > Thanks Doug. In the arctic with the 180mm and 2x converter, I tried 
> > to use 1/3000 when I could, but it seems I might have been a bit 
> > paranoid. I'm testing a bit before I go. Things tend to not move 
> > fast in the antarctic, but from the zodiacs, you do get the same roll.
> >
> > I still don't quite understand the differences that a RAW converter 
> > can make over another. Perhaps I should look at Flexcolour.
> >
> > Thanks again for your patience
> >
> > Alastair
> >
> > --- wildlightphoto@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > From: wildlightphoto@earthlink.net
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:40:33 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> >
> > Alastair Firkin wrote:
> >
> > > Doug,
> > > could you re-enlighten me on the settings you use with the DMR for 
> > > your wildlife work?
> >
> > Typically I use ISO 400 with -1 exposure compensation, but that's 
> > really just a starting point or for when chimping is impractical.
> > More often I'll review the histograms of the first few exposures to 
> > be sure I'm not clipping any highlights, and to set the exposure so 
> > the histogram is as far to the right as possible w/o clipping.  I 
> > have the display set up to highlight clipped pixels.
> >
> > > Also, any comments about what to do with the files:
> > > should I keep them as the big 20meg files
> >
> > Yes.  I use Imacon Flexcolor so I can't comment on C1 or LR.
> >
> > > Any hints on handling? Boy just typing this is making me keen to 
> > > "get out there".
> >
> > Minimum acceptable shutter speeds will vary from one person to the 
> > next, from one day to the next, and from one situation to the next.
> > On dry land with the 560, shoulder stock & monopod, I try to stick 
> > with 1/125 sec or faster but this isn't a strict rule.  I've gone 
> > slower to 1/60 sec, and if I'm in a hurry or the critter is moving
> > 1/125 sec will be too slow.  In the kayak I often use 1/3000 sec 
> > because EVERYTHING is moving: the bird is swimming on ripples that 
> > are making it bob up & down, the kayak is being pushed laterally and 
> > turning from the slightest breeze, plus the kayak is rolling 
> > slightly, bobbing out of sync with the bird, and its roll angle 
> > changes as I turn
> to
> follow the bird.
> >
> > With the 280mm lens on dry land with shoulder stock & monopod 1/60 
> > sec is often fine (subject motion permitting) and when I have 
> > something solid to lean against 1/15 sec sometimes works too.
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >
> >
> >
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