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Subject: [Leica] DMR and RAW converters
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue Nov 4 04:09:20 2008
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Can you do those on a trip to Antartica? Would you even want to ???
Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Geoff Hopkinson 
<hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>wrote:

> I'll take three!
> But can it get my LUG mail, surf to eBay and run Photoshop??? ;-)
>
>
> Cheers
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR and RAW converters
>
> Alastair,
> Get a couple of these for trips, and do not take the laptop:
>
> http://www.hyperdrive.com/
>
> I have the Colorspace model, with the 2.2" screen, and it is fast &
> reliable. When the hard drive is full, just replace the drive, and put away
> the original as a permanent backup.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Alastair Firkin <afirkin@afirkin.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The DMR files are pretty large: means less fit on the onboard sd card
> > as well. They are dng, but do not use the M8's "compression". I keep
> > them as Leica DMR RAW: I think my external disc and back up will be
> > big enough, and I'll take some DVD'S.
> >
> > I have used LR (which is camera Raw 4.6 I think, but every now and
> > then someone including Leica talk about Capture one as being
> > "superior" in some way.
> >
> > Don't be jealous, get on board ;-) Actually, I suspect if the Aussie
> > Dollar languishes in its current hole this might spell the end of
> > expensive trips for me for a little while. I'm not sure my soul could
> > not cope with a trip to the US at 50c again!!!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --- hoppyman@bigpond.net.au wrote:
> >
> > From: "Geoff Hopkinson" <hoppyman@bigpond.net.au>
> > To: "'Leica Users Group'" <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Subject: RE: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:46:24 +1000
> >
> > Alastair, just keep your Raw files and you can experiment at leisure
> > with different converters later if you want. If you convert to DNG you
> > will not lose any information anyway. For the M8 of course that is
> > what you will have anyway. The only disadvantage for a non-Leica
> > camera would be that the camera maker's proprietary software would not
> > read them. Although you can embed the Raw file in the DNG as well that
> > will make it larger and gain you nothing for during the trip.
> > We can talk more about Raw converters when you return. Absolutely
> > nothing lost in the meantime.
> > Oh and I'm insanely jealous once again about this new trip. Watch out
> > for amorous leopard seals. Don't wear your seal coloured fur coat either.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/e
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> > Pick up your camera and make the best photo you can.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lug-bounces+hoppyman=bigpond.net.au@leica-users.org
> > [mailto:lug-bounces+hoppyman 
> > <lug-bounces%2Bhoppyman><lug-bounces%2Bhoppyman>=
> bigpond.net.au@
> > leica-users.org] On Behalf Of
> > Alastair Firkin
> > Sent: Tuesday, 4 November 2008 15:35
> > To: Leica Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> >
> > Thanks Doug. In the arctic with the 180mm and 2x converter, I tried to
> > use 1/3000 when I could, but it seems I might have been a bit
> > paranoid. I'm testing a bit before I go. Things tend to not move fast
> > in the antarctic, but from the zodiacs, you do get the same roll.
> >
> > I still don't quite understand the differences that a RAW converter
> > can make over another. Perhaps I should look at Flexcolour.
> >
> > Thanks again for your patience
> >
> > Alastair
> >
> > --- wildlightphoto@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > From: wildlightphoto@earthlink.net
> > To: Leica Users Group <lug@leica-users.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Leica] digital analog comparison
> > Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 20:40:33 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
> >
> > Alastair Firkin wrote:
> >
> > > Doug,
> > > could you re-enlighten me on the settings you use with the DMR for
> > > your wildlife work?
> >
> > Typically I use ISO 400 with -1 exposure compensation, but that's
> > really just a starting point or for when chimping is impractical.
> > More often I'll review the histograms of the first few exposures to be
> > sure I'm not clipping any highlights, and to set the exposure so the
> > histogram is as far to the right as possible w/o clipping.  I have the
> > display set up to highlight clipped pixels.
> >
> > > Also, any comments about what to do with the files:
> > > should I keep them as the big 20meg files
> >
> > Yes.  I use Imacon Flexcolor so I can't comment on C1 or LR.
> >
> > > Any hints on handling? Boy just typing this is making me keen to
> > > "get out there".
> >
> > Minimum acceptable shutter speeds will vary from one person to the
> > next, from one day to the next, and from one situation to the next.
> > On dry land with the 560, shoulder stock & monopod, I try to stick
> > with 1/125 sec or faster but this isn't a strict rule.  I've gone
> > slower to 1/60 sec, and if I'm in a hurry or the critter is moving
> > 1/125 sec will be too slow.  In the kayak I often use 1/3000 sec
> > because EVERYTHING is moving: the bird is swimming on ripples that are
> > making it bob up & down, the kayak is being pushed laterally and
> > turning from the slightest breeze, plus the kayak is rolling slightly,
> > bobbing out of sync with the bird, and its roll angle changes as I turn
> to
> follow the bird.
> >
> > With the 280mm lens on dry land with shoulder stock & monopod 1/60 sec
> > is often fine (subject motion permitting) and when I have something
> > solid to lean against 1/15 sec sometimes works too.
> >
> > Doug Herr
> > Birdman of Sacramento
> > http://www.wildlightphoto.com
> >
> >
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Replies: Reply from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] DMR and RAW converters)
In reply to: Message from afirkin at afirkin.com (Alastair Firkin) ([Leica] DMR and RAW converters)
Message from jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj) ([Leica] DMR and RAW converters)
Message from hoppyman at bigpond.net.au (Geoff Hopkinson) ([Leica] DMR and RAW converters)