Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/11/01
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Frank, I dont agree - they sell photographs for a living, unlike you and me. Any long term survival of any company depends on being able to sell a product in the niche where it excels. I was also comparing the D3 to the R8/9 with DMR, and not to the M series. Incidentally, I have a few prints taken by Doug Herr with the DMR, as well as quite a few taken with the D3 combo I was referencing, and I think that for wildlife/birds the Nikon combo is better - I again reitirate that this is based on examining prints and not on seeing small jpg on the net. I myself use the 200-400, but with the D300, and it is the best and most versatile long lens I have owned for wildlife. It is not useful at all for street photography, though (-: !! Cheers Jayanand On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:20 PM, FRANK DERNIE <frank.dernie@btinternet.com>wrote: > Hi Jayanand, > I have a D3 and at high iso and with zooms, long lenses and macro it has > certain advantages over my M:-) For normal photography however, for which I > mean the sort of thing I have done for years with my M6, it is noticeably > inferior to my M8, whilst being the best DSLR I have tried. > The fact that most camera journalists nowadays are more likely to be > impressed by low noise at high iso, fast motors and multi point autofocus > than image quality is an indication of the lack of worth of their opinions, > not its value IMHO. > Frank > > > --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] R10 news > > To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> > > Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 5:29 PM > > Doug, > > I disagree - they are well on the way. Look at the new > > Nikon zooms - 14-24, > > 24-70 and the 200-400 - I have no experience with Canon. > > Leica make great > > lenses, but don't sell many, and it wont change > > whatever happens. I am sure > > the Nikon D3 with the 200-400 would do wonders for your > > bird photography. It > > makes no sense to be blind to the demerits of a brand - by > > all means shoot > > what you want, but keep your mind open to reality. IMHO the > > number of bird > > photographers using the DMR can be counted on the fingers > > of one hand, and > > there must be a reason for it - otherwise it would be the > > equipment of > > choice for them. If it is the benchmark, I dont see it used > > as such by any > > reviewer of cameras. Therefore in the real world, except > > for a few of us in > > this list, who have the interest and the time, it is really > > irrelevant. > > BTW, the only magazine I saw the M8 recommended (as a must > > buy toy, like the > > Iphone) is Esquire or GQ, I forget which - if Leica has to > > survive on sales > > to the general readership of those magazines, they are > > gone. To most of the > > inhabitants of the world, cameras are discretionary > > purchases, and I expect > > sales to really go down everywhere with the present crisis, > > especially at > > the top end of the market. C,N & S will survive that, > > but what about Leica? > > I will make a prediction that one of the Japanese > > companies, probably > > Matsushita, will buy them within the next 3 years. > > Cheers > > Jayanand > > > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:57 PM, > > <wildlightphoto@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > A. Lal wrote: > > > > > > >I had a chance to speak to Ms. Harbets at the > > Leica booth at NY > > > Photo-Expo > > > >last week. I'd be very surprised if the R 10 > > goes on sale before the next > > > >Photokina. By then C, N and S will probably have > > 30 meg sensors in their > > > >top bodies. Not sure what Leica need to compete. > > > > > > C, N and S will need to revamp much of their lens > > lineup in order to take > > > advantage of 30MP sensors. Early results from the > > 5DII suggest that its > > > sensor is overkill for many of the EF lenses. Absent > > a completely new set > > > of lenses, C, N and S will do better to address bit > > depth and DR > > > deficiencies. > > > > > > Doug Herr > > > Birdman of Sacramento > > > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for > > more information > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >