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Subject: [Leica] Totally OT: What the HELL is F1 doing?
From: sethrosner at nycap.rr.com (Seth Rosner)
Date: Thu Jun 23 06:55:02 2005
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Frank, you are perfectly correct about Mosely. In my view that doesn't 
persuade me that he and FIA were correct in their response. If the facts had 
been reversed and Bridgestone tires had been faulty, would the Michelin 
teams have agreed to change the circuit to let Ferrari be competitive? What 
do you think?

Seth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Dernie" <Frank.Dernie@btinternet.com>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Totally OT: What the HELL is F1 doing?


> Max is the consummate politician check out his background. What he is 
> writing is the first tirade in what will be a long and tedious legal  and 
> political battle for power. It has little to do with the facts  IMO but he 
> is a very convincing Machiavellian and often wins. Behind  this whole 
> story is a massive power struggle in motor sport between  Mosely and some 
> others, the loser was the spectator.
> Frank
>
> On 23 Jun, 2005, at 03:38, Seth Rosner wrote:
>
>> Eric, you are missing nothing. You have it exactly right.
>> Here is the FIA release of the Q&A of Max Moseley, FIA President.  He 
>> states the facts surrounding this unpleasantness and explains,  with 
>> clear examples, precisely why the FIA could not change its  rules to 
>> accommodate mistakes in equipment and preparation:
>>
>> http://www.fia.com/mediacentre/Press_Releases/FIA_Sport/2005/June/ 
>> 220605-01.html
>>
>> Seth
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric" <ericm@pobox.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Totally OT: What the HELL is F1 doing?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Frank:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The FIA are now circulating outraged press releases which try to lay
>>>> the blame for the actual race fiasco elsewhere. Clearly the  technical
>>>> failure was down to Michelin. The absence of a compromise solution
>>>> allowing a race to take place for the spectators was IMHO entirely
>>>> due to the FIA refusing to adopt such a compromise. Obviously they
>>>> have the power to do this though they have never used it like this
>>>> before.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Usually, the only race I watch is the Indy 500.  I saw the reports  of 
>>> this
>>> fiasco and was interested since it was run at Indy.
>>>
>>> What I don't understand is how this is anybody's fault other than the
>>> Michelin teams.
>>>
>>> If the Pistons went to the officials and said that they were  having 
>>> problems
>>> running as fast up and down the court as the Spurs and could they 
>>> impose
>>> artificial constraints so the Pistons could rest more, they'd be 
>>> laughed at.
>>> If the Pistons want to slow their game down, they're entitled to  do so. 
>>> But
>>> why should the Spurs be affected?
>>>
>>> Bring the wrong equipment and then refuse to race because the  officials
>>> won't penalize your opponent?  Then again, like I said, I don't watch
>>> Formula 1 on a regular basis.  So I *must* be missing something.   From 
>>> the
>>> outside, it looks rather silly.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Eric
>>> http://canid.com/
>>>
>>>
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