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Subject: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2019 00:54:50 -0500
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To me lightroom classic means a room outside your darkroom which has a large 
light table on it. A Schneider loupe and other magnifiers.  My spot tone and 
brushes. A print dryer I'd use as a flattener. A large t shaped mat cutter 
guide and a mat cutter which spare blads and an inventory of 17x22 inch 
glass and metal frames.  Cardboard cornders for the outsides of the frames.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 12/19/19, 1:33 PM, "LUG on behalf of Tina Manley via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    You can still use LR Classic with your own hard drives and local storage.
    That's what I do.  LR Classic offers more features and choices than the
    cloud-based regular LR.  I have no intention of switching.
    
    Tina
    
    On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    
    > So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you have to 
use
    > their cloud?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark William Rabiner
    > Photographer
    >
    > ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
    > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >
    >     LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
    >     LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss essential
    > bells and whistles.
    >     I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR CCC.
    >
    >     The offer may vary from country to country though.
    >
    >     Amities
    >
    >     Philippe
    >
    >
    >
    >     > Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a
    > ?crit :
    >     >
    >     > No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan (together 
with
    > PS and LR CC)....
    >     >
    >     > john
    >     >
    >     > -----Original Message-----
    >     > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at 
leica-users.org]
    > On Behalf Of Richard Man
    >     > Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
    >     > To: Leica Users Group
    >     > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
    >     >
    >     > I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, you 
will
    > have
    >     > to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are 
paying
    >     > "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the $100+
    > every year,
    >     > if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. Just 
do
    > some
    >     > web searches and you will find many stories.
    >     >
    >     > Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and
    > nothing
    >     > else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
    >     >
    >     >
    >     > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at 
rabinergroup.com>
    > wrote:
    >     >
    >     >> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside for
    > recess and
    >     >> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground
    > Equipment .
    >     >> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room all 
of
    > them
    >     >> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
    >     >> None of them played computer games. They all played with 
Photoshop
    > with
    >     >> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As 
did I
    > in my
    >     >> studio.
    >     >> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own 
images.
    >     >> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best
    > Photoshop
    >     >> time. Still do.
    >     >> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap cameras.
    > The ones
    >     >> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste their
    > money and
    >     >> time on making images with expensive software.
    >     >> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
    >     >> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images which 
may
    > come
    >     >> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >> --
    >     >>
    >     >> Mark William Rabiner
    >     >> Photographer
    >     >>
    >     >> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
    >     >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf 
of
    >     >> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    >     >>
    >     >>    Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
    >     >>
    >     >>    Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids on
    > tablets) -
    >     >> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite intuitively.
    >     >>
    >     >>    And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s 
photoshop.
    > The
    >     >> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave up ?
    >     >>
    >     >>    OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also sometimes 
get
    > better
    >     >> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
    >     >>
    >     >>    Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts 
plug-ins
    > if
    >     >> needed
    >     >>
    >     >>    Hope this helps
    >     >>
    >     >>    Amities
    >     >>
    >     >>    Philippe
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>
    >     >>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
    >     >> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
    >     >>>
    >     >>> Hi all,
    >     >>>
    >     >>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a couple
    >     >> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
    >     >>> What software are you all using to manage your digital images?
    >     >> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
    >     >>>
    >     >>>
    >     >>> Richard Endress
    >     >>> rendress at me.com
    >     >>>
    >     >>>
    >     >
    >     >
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