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Subject: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
From: leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram)
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2019 20:53:24 +0000
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You may not have any intention of switching, but I'll bet you dollars to 
donuts that Adobe will force the issue in a few years.  That is why I am 
still with LR6.  I don't object to the price of renting your software, but 
to the idea that you have lost control and will end up wherever Adobe wants 
you to end up, which I fear will be play on the cloud or don't play at all.

Aram

-----Original Message----- 
From: Tina Manley
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2019 10:33 AM
To: Leica Users Group
Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?

You can still use LR Classic with your own hard drives and local storage.
That's what I do.  LR Classic offers more features and choices than the
cloud-based regular LR.  I have no intention of switching.

Tina

On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> So really you can't use lightroom with your own hard disk you have to use
> their cloud?
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
>
> ?On 12/18/19, 5:54 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>
>     LR Classic is now LR CCC - Classic but Cloud based.
>     LR CC doesn?t work for (serious) photographers, you miss essential
> bells and whistles.
>     I tried it, and changed my subscription the next day to LR CCC.
>
>     The offer may vary from country to country though.
>
>     Amities
>
>     Philippe
>
>
>
>     > Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 11:49, John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.uk> a
> ?crit :
>     >
>     > No, LR Classic is still there in the photography plan (together with
> PS and LR CC)....
>     >
>     > john
>     >
>     > -----Original Message-----
>     > From: LUG [mailto:lug-bounces+john=mcmaster.co.uk at leica-users.org]
> On Behalf Of Richard Man
>     > Sent: 18 December 2019 09:13
>     > To: Leica Users Group
>     > Subject: Re: [Leica] Photo-editing software recommendations?
>     >
>     > I have been using LR since v2. However, if you jump in now, you will
> have
>     > to get the "cloud version". It's not even so much that you are 
> paying
>     > "Adobe tax" every year, because the software is worth the $100+
> every year,
>     > if you can afford it. The major problem is the instability. Just do
> some
>     > web searches and you will find many stories.
>     >
>     > Since I only use LR (and PSD), but the pre-cloud versions, and
> nothing
>     > else, I don't know what to recommend. Good luck.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 11:06 PM Mark Rabiner 
> <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> wrote:
>     >
>     >> In the 90's they stopped demanding the kids all go outside for
> recess and
>     >> get exercise catching baseballs and playing on the Playground
> Equipment .
>     >> They let them stay indoors all filling up the computer room all of
> them
>     >> playing with their new favorite toy. Photoshop.
>     >> None of them played computer games. They all played with Photoshop
> with
>     >> any image they could get their hands on. Mainly downloads. As did I
> in my
>     >> studio.
>     >> It was years before I photoshopped a scan from one of my own 
> images.
>     >> endless of fun. I started staying up late at night the best
> Photoshop
>     >> time. Still do.
>     >> Popular with all the young photographers shooting cheap cameras.
> The ones
>     >> with the expensive camera though were not going to waste their
> money and
>     >> time on making images with expensive software.
>     >> They brought their memory cards into Walgreens.
>     >> More expensive the gear; less they care about the images which may
> come
>     >> out of them. That?s a rule you can count on!
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >>
>     >> Mark William Rabiner
>     >> Photographer
>     >>
>     >> ?On 12/18/19, 1:02 AM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
>     >> <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
>     >> lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>    Primarily, there?s software that came with your camera.
>     >>
>     >>    Then Lightroom Classic CC (the other version is for kids on
> tablets) -
>     >> a fully integrated suite that operates quite quite intuitively.
>     >>
>     >>    And if you want (mainly useless) horse power there?s photoshop.
> The
>     >> leaning curve is then hymalayasesque, and I personally gave up ?
>     >>
>     >>    OTT depending on the camera you use, you may also sometimes get
> better
>     >> results with DXO, Capture One, On1, and a few others.
>     >>
>     >>    Let?s say LR is the swiss knife of them all and accepts plug-ins
> if
>     >> needed
>     >>
>     >>    Hope this helps
>     >>
>     >>    Amities
>     >>
>     >>    Philippe
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> Le 18 d?c. 2019 ? 02:24, Richard Endress via LUG <
>     >> lug at leica-users.org> a ?crit :
>     >>>
>     >>> Hi all,
>     >>>
>     >>> I find that the product formerly known as iPhoto, for a couple
>     >> reasons, is no longer a good fit for me.
>     >>> What software are you all using to manage your digital images?
>     >> Adobe- something? What do you recommend?
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Richard Endress
>     >>> rendress at me.com
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >
>     >
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