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Subject: [Leica] Adobe Stock Market Price
From: richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2019 00:30:05 -0700
References: <1223894533.2187367.1560819380657.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <1223894533.2187367.1560819380657@mail.yahoo.com> <CAH1UNJ3nQSLEka32TaLZLCW1EiR3fQfi7wvM_Be7eGZ=u=jmtg@mail.gmail.com> <1222045278.2263596.1560837539951@mail.yahoo.com> <473a07351bdff9fce1ea9213966947df@mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>

The predatory style apparently works well in terms of profit margin.... I
am still hanging on with my non-rental LR 7 and PS CS5. I could get steep
"friend of Adobe employee" discount on rental but a) I just don't want to
pay the tax, and b) seems like stability is an issue with all the constant
updates. "Run fast and break things" may work for Facebook and it's not a
good model for productivity software. Besides, while I do shoot some
digital, most of what I do are scanned film, and I do not need the latest
and greatest LR/PS features.

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 11:51 AM Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us>
wrote:

> On 2019-06-17 22:58, Frank Filippone via LUG wrote:
> > Their background ( for
> > the youngsters) was the licensing of type faces ( what we now call
> > fonts).
>
> I was quite involved in the founding of Adobe. I had founders' stock
> before their IPO. I sold it a long time ago (and did well), but I've
> paid attention since.
>
> Adobe was founded because John Warnock wanted to create PDF, but since
> nobody knew what it was and he couldn't get funding for it, he created
> PostScript as part of a contract with Apple to produce the original
> LaserWriter. PostScript evolved into PDF, and was eventually EOL'd. The
> original Apple LaserWriter was Adobe's first product.
>
> Adobe got into the font business in order to make laser printers more
> marketable. In the very beginning we used to take typeface catalogs and
> enlarge the letterforms on a Xerox copier and then digitize them. In the
> United States there is no legal protection for the shape of a
> letterform. You can copy the shape of Helvetica letters without risking
> a lawsuit, but you can't call it Helvetica. So it was called Geneva.
> Adobe didn't start owning or licensing fonts until they wanted to sell
> internationally.
>
> Adobe got into the software business with Illustrator. Warnock wanted to
> make it easier for people to make PostScript files so they would be more
> likely to buy PostScript printers. When the Knoll brothers, who created
> Photoshop, got tired of doing software sales (and one of them needed to
> focus full-time on his day job working for George Lucas) they sold it to
> Adobe, which hired Thomas. Adobe had figured out that it needed a raster
> editor in addition to a spline editor, and Photoshop was it.
>
> The upper management and board of directors of Adobe were kind and
> gentle people. After Adobe bought Macromedia in late 2005, Macromedia's
> upper management people were merged into Adobe. In my opinion (I am not
> stating this as fact, but just what I think based on what I saw) Adobe
> was soon dominated by the Macromedia people, and has ever since been
> operated in their more predatory style.
>
> Some time soonish I am going to post my experiences at trying to use a
> rented Photoshop/Lightroom version side by side with my trusty old
> purchased CS6 Illustrator, InDesign, Dreamweaver, Acrobat, and Bridge.
> (And the venerable Fireworks, which I still need to use several times
> per year.) Summary: it is a hot mess, and a major nuisance. If you
> depend on both photography and graphic design products from Adobe, you
> are basically screwed unless you rent everything.
>
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