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Subject: [Leica] OT -- Billingham Eventer
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:55:36 -0500
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The trick in not letting a big back break your back is to fill it with light 
fluffy things like a spare thin wool sweater. Long underwear.  Your lunch.
Lenses and flashes and bodies or heavy. I don?t put a lot of those in camera 
bags. Only a few. It's easy to get carried away. Or turn yourself in to a 
dead weight. I have spinal compression issues myself. Once ounce is an ounce 
I don't need. But I like room for options. Also empty is good or near empty. 
Leaves room for something picked up along  the way.

 
 

-- 

Mark William Rabiner
Photographer

?On 2/22/18, 9:43 PM, "LUG on behalf of Jayanand Govindaraj via LUG" 
<lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of lug at 
leica-users.org> wrote:

    Frank,
    FWIW, I even find the Billingham 335 heavy and cumbersome today. The
    capacity to carry a heavy bag has declined significantly in the last 20
    years, and now that I am 65, light weight is of paramount concern - for
    example, in my Nikon system, I have gravitated to f4 zooms instead of 
f2.8
    ones. I still carry it as a general bag for international travel, though 
-
    it will carry my 13" laptop, my Ipad Mini, all travel documents,
    medication, etc, with room left for any casual purchases in duty free.
    
    Cheers
    Jayanand
    
    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Frank <frank at 
f3documentaryphotography.com>
    wrote:
    
    > ;-)
    >
    >
    > Frank F. Farmer
    > Jackson, Mississippi
    >
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone
    >
    > > On Feb 22, 2018, at 4:24 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
    > >
    > > I shoot everything with a strap around my neck. Of to put it another 
way
    > > I shoot nothing without a strap around my neck.
    > > The cutting off of the oxygen supply makes me pre visualize better.
    > > I put my bag behind me a lot so it's really up against my back.
    > > I also do that so its less visible to people coming at me on the
    > sidewalk.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > >
    > > Mark William Rabiner
    > > Photographer
    > >
    > > ?On 2/22/18, 1:47 PM, "LUG on behalf of Philippe via LUG"
    > <lug-bounces+mark=rabinergroup.com at leica-users.org on behalf of
    > lug at leica-users.org> wrote:
    > >
    > >    I?m still waiting for the magic bag that allows you to shoot when 
the
    > camera strap is not around your neck.
    > >
    > >    Keep digging guys ;-)
    > >
    > >    Amities
    > >    Philippe
    > >
    > >
    > >> Le 22 f?vr. 2018 ? 19:13, Frank <frank at 
f3documentaryphotography.com> a
    > ?crit :
    > >>
    > >> Too many bags? No way!
    > >>
    > >> Thanks for the link, and commentary.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Frank F. Farmer
    > >> Jackson, Mississippi
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Sent from my iPhone
    > >>
    > >>> On Feb 22, 2018, at 8:53 AM, Robert Baron via LUG <lug at 
leica-users.org>
    > wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>> Frank, to the best of my current recollection I had a Billingham
    > Eventer
    > >>> and didn't use it because I found it too large and cumbersome.  I 
may
    > have
    > >>> sold it to a member of the OKCLUG.  I do have a black Leica M
    > combination
    > >>> bag such as Lluis mentions and I use it as a compact walk around 
bag on
    > >>> days I am walking around.  Like most photographers I have way too 
many
    > bags
    > >>> but it is one I often reach for.
    > >>>
    > >>> A resource for bag discussions is
    > >>> https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=195
    > >>>
    > >>> I have ordered many bags from B&H because of their liberal return
    > >>> policy.....but then for some reason I rarely return them.
    > >>>
    > >>> Current favorites include a black Domke that looks like a briefcase
    > and can
    > >>> go to the office or courthouse, a Filson David Alan Harvey 
messenger
    > style
    > >>> that carries more stuff and is very lightweight and a Fogg eFlat.  
I
    > had a
    > >>> Filson Harvey backpack but sold it because I didn't like the design
    > (too
    > >>> deep!  on my back!) and it was painful on my aged spine.
    > >>>
    > >>> --Bob Baron / Oklahoma City
    > >>>
    > >>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 11:38 PM, Frank Farmer <
    > >>> frank at f3documentaryphotography.com> wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>> Ok, Team, my last bag question (and, unless you have a Billingham
    > Eventer,
    > >>>> or have used one, please refrain):
    > >>>>
    > >>>> I like the Eventer, too. It is, apparently, the Noctilux of camera
    > bags.
    > >>>> Boy howdy is it more tan twice the price of a Hadley Pro. 
Question:
    > >>>> assuming you have one, other than the increased cost of materials,
    > (love
    > >>>> the leather bottom), is it worth it? Also, are the inerds the 
same as
    > the
    > >>>> Pro?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> I?ve diligently searched for a video review of this bag. Or, 
photos
    > of the
    > >>>> bag. Or, just a plain old review. Really, anything about the 
Eventer.
    > Seems
    > >>>> like people are mum on it. Perhaps it is because folks know they 
can
    > just
    > >>>> buy a Hadley Pro.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Just a last ditch query.
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Thanks!
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Frank F. Farmer
    > >>>> Jackson, Mississippi
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>>
    > >>>
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