Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/23

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Subject: [Leica] New M/ BOKEH?????
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:32:31 +1000
References: <FE91FE22AEAE4ACD9CBEFEC063A89E51@syneticfeba505> <CC82DB91.23D9D%mark@rabinergroup.com> <1348299034.34060.YahooMailNeo@web87404.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <82DB9F5FE14A45528041777594BB11D5@syneticfeba505> <6E3DF34F716C4E5DB79E7C93C1515827@jimnichols> <CAE3QcF4DF-pBV8ER8o=pgUQ9=ubGqCM40Mc+MP-bbLj7R8V8UA@mail.gmail.com> <6E90FCAE91E547159BCA4181185F2D98@syneticfeba505> <CAF8hL-ELHx+b4edEwDXKVa_W8WmPsHqUsEiZsXUvgvLhpaxggQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAE3QcF4MDFpFzuLpio9KO83dCbA74_KVGiVSk1TTKOv1ZOTHbQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAF8hL-EiuanC_XNNYTg7g+xPAnO3D9t8SqH=3T3JD_PcXE7Oag@mail.gmail.com>

As another aspect, it is very interesting to read or hear from the senior
optical folks at Carl Zeiss and Leica Camera on lens design and
characteristics.

The CZ article I referenced is meticulous and detailed for laymen and in
excellent English for we mono-linguists. Dr Hubert Nasse is apparently the
senior scientist at Carl Zeiss Camera Lens Division
For anyone interested, you can search for H H Nasse.  There is a series in
fact in their back catalog of Camera Lens Newsletters.

 By contrast the interviews etc I have seen from Peter Karbe at Leica
Camera (optical designer and head of their optical systems development)
 reflect a very modest unassuming man who is totally passionate regarding
his work. Since he designed my very best M lenses I am prejudiced naturally.

Neither is any reflection nor comparison on skills at either manufacturer
of course, just an observation on what I have seen from them.  I love to
learn as much as possible in any area that interests me.

Cheers,
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman



On 24 September 2012 11:06, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
wrote:

> True, we USians tend to be US centric :-/
>
> But of course the Japanese care about for a long time. Otherwise they
> wouldn't have have the word for it.
>
> You are correct Sir!
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Richard, that's a pretty US-centric frame of reference ;-)  Those
> Japanese
> > and German folks that actually make lenses and cameras do care too.
> > You managed to include a throw away line implying this is only important
> > for people that only talk about photography!
> > Journey AND destination, sir!
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> >
> > On 24 September 2012 05:03, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > UNCLE Ted:
> > >
> > > The word boke/bokeh was borrowed by Mike Johnston (who was on this list
> > > once upon a time, I believe) in the early 1970s from Japanese to
> describe
> > > the phenomena, and probably didn't get popular usage until the 2000's
> > when
> > > photographers have time to really hone their craft - on the Internet
> chat
> > > rooms and forums.
> > >
> > > Probably why you didn't hear about it before.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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> --
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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