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Subject: [Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 00:15:07 +0100
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When I lived in NJ, I had to pay a federal tax of 31% plus a state tax of 7% 
(starting with the first dollar), a Social Security tax and Medicare tax 
adding up to 9% or so (also from the first dollar)--for a total of 46%, for 
which I got nothing except invasions of countries I did not care about etc. 
I was lucky that we lived in a town with good public schools, so I did not 
need to pay exorbitant fees at the local private school for the 1-percenters.

Nathan Wajsman
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On Mar 23, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Ken Carney wrote:

> Not too sure about the free part. According to my BNA country portfolio on 
> Finland, the marginal tax rate (national, local, municipal and church 
> taxes) hits about 50% on income between ?38,000 and 66,000 and is over 55% 
> on income in excess of ?66,000. Then there is a VAT. I'm not going to 
> complain on April 15 this year!
> 
> Ken
> 
> On 3/22/2012 2:07 AM, Raimo K wrote:
>> Well, university education is free in Finland (like all other education 
>> as well).
>> The Americans may call it socialism (but it isn't), we call it equal 
>> opportunities.
>> In the future we may have to charge tuition fees from students outside 
>> the EU, though.
>> All the best!
>> Raimo K
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: Henning Wulff
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 8:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim
>> 
>> 
>> It's nearly as bad here in Canada. Tuition fees rise well beyond any 
>> concept of inflation. Meanwhile our education minister goes off to China 
>> to promote Canada as a place to come and get educated (for a price).
>> 
>> Meanwhile, in the public schools....
>> We've just legislation from our provincial government denying the 
>> teachers any pay increases for the next while and at the same time 
>> retroactively taking away a number of hard won limits on class sizes, 
>> help for teachers with special needs students and other advances achieved 
>> in the last ten years. The legislation specifically states this 10 year 
>> retroactive roll back.
>> 
>> Our premier meanwhile sends her son off to private school. She can afford 
>> it, as the pay raises for all the legislature has been substantially 
>> above the rate of inflation, and about as drastic as the increase in 
>> university fees.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2012-03-21, at 2:05 PM, scleroplex wrote:
>> 
>>> exactly!!
>>> 
>>> everyone is talking about the rise in healthcare costs.
>>> no one is comparing the rate of rise of higher education costs.
>>> it is 6 times that of health care!
>>> 
>>> all the universities are raking it in and putting up flashy buildings 
>>> with
>>> gay abandon.
>>> and no one is even looking at abuse of HEFA loans, which is as big a
>>> scandal as mortgage loans if not bigger.
>>> 
>>> university boards are packed with real estate developers who get HEFA 
>>> loans
>>> from the government and spend the money on construction projects.
>>> 
>>> a good percentage of the loans are also invested in the capital markets 
>>> by
>>> university endowment funds and multiplied.
>>> essentially rolling cheap tax money.
>>> when there is a profit, the university keeps it.
>>> when there is a loss, it is a public write-off.
>>> 
>>> nowadays whenever i see students and their parents touring the 
>>> universities
>>> here in boston,
>>> i only think, here are the next lot of mugs!
>>> these are the people who are deliberately left in huge debt,
>>> which they then concentrate on paying off the next 30 years,
>>> with no time for the policing of democracy at the local or national 
>>> level.
>>> 
>>> bharani
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Message: 16
>>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 09:07:49 +0530
>>> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Message-ID:
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>>> 
>>> It is still considered a part of the parent's duty to fully educate their
>>> offspring here in India (I am talking lower middle class and above here).
>>> Of course, there is some self preservation involved, as it is still
>>> considered a part of the offspring's duty to look after the parents in
>>> their old age. My parents in law have always stayed with me, and my 
>>> parents
>>> with my brother - and they have done so for the past 20-25 years. The old
>>> joint family systems have not noticeably broken down as yet, though in
>>> urban India it is starting to happen.
>>> 
>>> As far as the USA is concerned, it is my considered view that the only
>>> bubble that has not collapsed yet is in education - both in terms of
>>> affordability, and the sheer weight of student loan debt that has no 
>>> chance
>>> of being repaid.
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Jayanand
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Henning Wulff
>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Replies: Reply from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim)
In reply to: Message from scleroplex at gmail.com (scleroplex) ([Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim)
Message from henningw at archiphoto.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim)
Message from raimo.m.korhonen at uusikaupunki.fi (Raimo K) ([Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim)
Message from kcarney1 at cox.net (Ken Carney) ([Leica] Fuji X-Pro1 - Jim)