Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/03/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]We changed the thread topic. It evolved into higher ISO. Something that affects us now instead of vaporware. Unless you're talking about a few one-off special order Kodak DCS backs for the F3 that were made in only black and white during the late 90's. Phil Forrest On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:23:24 -0700 Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> wrote: > STOP STOP STOP > > Higher dynamic range not equal to high ISO > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Robert Meier <robertmeier at usjet.net> > wrote: > > > 24,000 is 5 stops away from 800. It's not hard to imagine a use > > for that. > > > > > > On Mar 14, 2012, at 8:09 PM, Tina Manley wrote: > > > > > In my many years photographing inside dark adobe houses by > > > firelight, I used mostly Tri-X and TMax 400 pushed to 800. When > > > TMax 3200 came out, I carried some of that for the very darkest > > > of the dark: > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121090460 > > > > > > http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/121090465 > > > > > > I can't imagine needing the super ISOs on some of the newest > > > digital cameras - like 24,000. What is that for? The black cat > > > in the coal > > mine? > > > But then maybe those other cameras don't have a lens that draws > > > in the light, like the Noctilux ;-) Who needs 24,000 when you > > > have 1.0!! > > > > > > Tina > > > > > > > > > I've been saying this for a while. The world is not getting > > > darker, > > >> right? Didn't most of us learn on "slow" films between 100 and > > >> 400 ISO? I still see no reason for anything over 3200. I'm not a > > >> coal miner shooting photos of black cats while at work nor are > > >> most of us on the LUG. I'm sure one person out there could make > > >> regular use of it but if digital weren't around we'd still be > > >> pushing film up to 3200 and 6400 to get our grainy yet great > > >> photos we love. > > >> > > >> To freeze motion at night? Again, why? Life isn't static, so why > > >> should our photography be? I always hate these tack sharp photos > > >> that folks show of helicopter blades perfectly frozen and > > >> straight as if the aircraft is going to fall from the sky. Some > > >> things just look unnatural when frozen above 1/1000 second. But > > >> that's my opinion. > > >> > > >> I love the fact that I can get a nice clean 800ISO with my M9 as > > >> long as I do the work to properly expose the frame. walking > > >> around center city Philly at night shooting a 35 Lux at f/2 and > > >> 1/30 second is perfect. All i have to do is focus and imagine > > >> Dr. Ted yelling at me to shoot, not to fiddle with the camera > > >> and all its trappings. > > >> > > >> I think this high ISO craze is BS but again, that's my opinion. > > >> I also KNOW it is spoiling a lot of photo students out there who > > >> don't know how to expose a frame without the camera telling them > > >> every single thing during and after (chimping) the shot. I'm > > >> waiting for this wave of mediocrity to sweep into the > > >> professional world and then the employment opportunities to open > > >> up to folks who learned how to do this on K64 with a spotmatic > > >> that had a broken light meter. > > >> > > >> Ok, mumble, mumble, metaphorical lawn, mumble mumble. I'll get > > >> off my soapbox. > > >> > > >> Phil Forrest > > >> > > >> > > >>>> If I could 2/3 more "speed" by using a B&W sensor I could > > >>>> achieve what ISO 306.000 or so? > > >>>> > > >>>> Or a clean IS 18,600 or so > > >>>> > > >>>> WHY? > > >>>> > > >>>> This scene is illuminated by the moonlight reflected from my > > >>>> cat's eye? At what point doe it get to be overkill? > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Leica Users Group. > > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > >> information > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Tina Manley, ASMP > > > www.tinamanley.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Leica Users Group. > > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more > > > information > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > -- philforrest.wordpress.com gallery.leica-users.org/v/philforrest