[Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

[richard at imagecraft.com (Richard Man)]

For some LUGgers, anything but Leica is blasphemy. Funny thing is the same
people shoot with non-Leica digital before the M8 was available because
digital is more convenient than film.

The choice is very simple, I have done 24x60" prints, and half a dozen of
them are hanging in a restaurant for 5 months now, and no one has ever said
gee, the lens could have been better.

One must take price performance in consideration, Today I used 3 lens and a
camera that would cost $15K if everything are bought new. And I used all 3.
The only reasons it's a $15K setup rather than $19K setup is because 2 of
them are Zeiss lens. The weakest link turns out to the still dust on the
sensor (which I think I got rid of them now. Will check tomorrow).

And to be honest, most people are not even getting the best out of the
pedestrian Nikon and Canon lens. If you can afford it, by all means, buy
Leica. But if you want a full kit, then Zeiss could be part of the equation.

On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Wendy Thurman <thurmanphoto at 
gmail.com>wrote:

> I didn't realize this was such a controversial subject!
>
> Wendy
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:01 PM, K Landdeck <bamboozld at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> > Mark,
> >
> > I have been on list for quite a while (though I don't post often as I'm
> > quite busy writing my dissertation), so no welcome necessary, but I will
> say
> > that attitudes such as yours are why I have almost unsubbed from this
> list
> > multiple times in the past year: thank you so much for your condescending
> > attitude ("warp dimension"??).
> >
> > My post was full of "Zeiss this and Zeiss that" because that's what Wendy
> > asked for.  Unlike your post (which is based on a second-hand assessment
> of
> > production facilities, outright speculation and comparison with equipment
> > made decades ago), I actually have used the Biogon lens extensively and
> have
> > used my Leica Summicron 35 ASPH extensively as well (though I haven't had
> it
> > as long as the Biogon).  I am speaking from experience on both sides and
> > make direct comparisons based on that experience of use, looking at the
> > RESULTS I have gotten from both lenses.  And, you will note (or would if
> you
> > actually read my post fully) that I acknowledged both positives and
> > negatives of the Biogon.
> >
> > You are welcome to your opinions that are based on price-prejudice and
> > absolutely no experience with the specific items in question -- I prefer
> to
> > actually have experience with something before I pipe in and when I do so
> it
> > will be my honest and balanced opinion (to the best of my abilities). :-)
> >
> > All Best,
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > =============
> > Only connect.
> > =============
> >
> > my photography:
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/shudaizi/
> >
> > bamboozld at gmail.com
> >
> >  Welcome to the LUG Kevin, the ZM Biogon 35 a very nice lens made by
> >> the very nice largest lens company in the world located in Japan.
> >> Its a ZM lens we refer to on the LUG.
> >> It cost a thousand dollars.
> >> A Summicron cost three thousand dollars.
> >> You want to compare them straight across you think that's wise?
> >> The ZM lenses are made in the same faculty that twenty other major
> >> brand named lenes are made. Within viewing distance of each other.
> >> Your post is full of Zeiss lenses are this and  Zeiss lenses  are
> >> that. A Zeiss lens cost three thousand or more dollars and are made
> >> in Germany with high tolerances amazingly high quality control and
> >> expensive choice glass types. For a hundred years.
> >> I own a half dozen for my Hasselblad system.
> >> The feel, look and quality has no resemblance at all to the nifty
> >> cheep stuff Cosina makes for them in Japan - with the Zeiss name on
> >> it. You want to call them a Zeiss lens you're fooling nobody but
> >> yourself. In another time warp dimension can you compare something
> >> straight across which cost a three times difference. Is made to way
> >> less tolerances. Well less quality glasses. Designed for an entirely
> >> different market. You want to save money?
> >> Get a CV or ZM lens for your Leica.
> >> You want a "world glass optic" you have to pay some real Leica money
> >> for it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [Rabs]
> >> Mark William Rabiner
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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