[Leica] Zeiss Wide Angle 35mm f/2 Biogon T* ZM

[bamboozld at gmail.com (K Landdeck)]

Mark,

I have been on list for quite a while (though I don't post often as  
I'm quite busy writing my dissertation), so no welcome necessary, but  
I will say that attitudes such as yours are why I have almost unsubbed  
from this list multiple times in the past year: thank you so much for  
your condescending attitude ("warp dimension"??).

My post was full of "Zeiss this and Zeiss that" because that's what  
Wendy asked for.  Unlike your post (which is based on a second-hand  
assessment of production facilities, outright speculation and  
comparison with equipment made decades ago), I actually have used the  
Biogon lens extensively and have used my Leica Summicron 35 ASPH  
extensively as well (though I haven't had it as long as the Biogon).   
I am speaking from experience on both sides and make direct  
comparisons based on that experience of use, looking at the RESULTS I  
have gotten from both lenses.  And, you will note (or would if you  
actually read my post fully) that I acknowledged both positives and  
negatives of the Biogon.

You are welcome to your opinions that are based on price-prejudice and  
absolutely no experience with the specific items in question -- I  
prefer to actually have experience with something before I pipe in and  
when I do so it will be my honest and balanced opinion (to the best of  
my abilities). :-)

All Best,

Kevin

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> Welcome to the LUG Kevin, the ZM Biogon 35 a very nice lens made by
> the very nice largest lens company in the world located in Japan.
> Its a ZM lens we refer to on the LUG.
> It cost a thousand dollars.
> A Summicron cost three thousand dollars.
> You want to compare them straight across you think that's wise?
> The ZM lenses are made in the same faculty that twenty other major
> brand named lenes are made. Within viewing distance of each other.
> Your post is full of Zeiss lenses are this and  Zeiss lenses  are
> that. A Zeiss lens cost three thousand or more dollars and are made
> in Germany with high tolerances amazingly high quality control and
> expensive choice glass types. For a hundred years.
> I own a half dozen for my Hasselblad system.
> The feel, look and quality has no resemblance at all to the nifty
> cheep stuff Cosina makes for them in Japan - with the Zeiss name on
> it. You want to call them a Zeiss lens you're fooling nobody but
> yourself. In another time warp dimension can you compare something
> straight across which cost a three times difference. Is made to way
> less tolerances. Well less quality glasses. Designed for an entirely
> different market. You want to save money?
> Get a CV or ZM lens for your Leica.
> You want a "world glass optic" you have to pay some real Leica money
> for it.
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> [Rabs]
> Mark William Rabiner