Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/02/24
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]No, I've only been in London, and only been twice; once in June and once in September. Visited perhaps ten pubs in all and the beer was generally too warm, though I do remember an excellent pint of Bass in a local in Soho (btw I think ale at warmer temperature is better than a good pilsner at that temp; I love the pilsner colder; the Belgian ales could be room temperature and be superb when they're good). So I wasn't commenting on actual cellars but that the beer was too warm for my taste in many places, but that a below-60F (15-ish C?) cellar temp would have been much better. The real menace in the US is the popularity over the last decade or a bit more of big bready sweet ales. Teh Brooklyn Brewery makes a lager and a pilsner that are both too dark and sweet for their class and every new micro-brewery ale hits the palate like a boozy sweet bun. Though -- a shout out to Rabs, who's feeling a little cranky I think -- I quit drinking some months ago so this all highly theoretical. I still hang around with friends in bars from time to time but I shan't be enjoying more good beer in this lifetime, I hope. No grief there: I certainly enjoyed enough of it in my time. Proof: http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/yearbook/at+the+bar.jpg.html http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/toast+eatin_+bog+man/yearbook/St+John+Synod+House+reflected+in+the+window+of+bar+of+flatish+beer+and+good+conversation+-+1020.html VP On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>wrote: > Cellars are normally around 12 deg. What part of the country did you find > the cellars to be warmer than that? Did you try many pubs? Did you stay > long > and travel widely or just a short local trip? > I am lucky in having the best beer pub in the south of England (according > to CAMRA) within walking distance, and my favourite beer is taken from the > barrel in the cellar so does not need to travel through a nasty pump! > I am not fond of the cold fizzy concoctions, "aged in plastic vats for 20 > minutes" to quote a comedy sketch, which my son and his friends drink. He > calls my favourite old-mans beer... > cheers, > Frank > BTW I consider beers like wines, different types have different > temperatures for optimum taste, with cold reducing the taste, which can be > a > very good thing. > > On 24 Feb, 2010, at 18:49, Vince Passaro wrote: > > > Cellar temperature would be fine but the Brits must have the warmest > cellars > > on earth. > > > > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Frank Dernie > > <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>wrote: > > > >> Americans may well prefer an American version of Belgian beer modified > to > >> suit American taste, just like they like American Pizza rather than > Italian, > >> and English like the Anglicised versions of Indian food and so forth. > >> I, funnily enough, prefer English beer, served a cellar temperature, to > >> lagers served cold ;-) > >> Frank > >> > >> On 24 Feb, 2010, at 16:04, Lawrence Zeitlin wrote: > >> > >>> The New York Times wine critic conducted a blind taste test of 20 > Belgian > >>> style ales and was blown away by their quality. Surprisingly the panel > >> found > >>> that three of the top four came from the US. What does the collective > >> wisdom > >>> of the LUG think. Should we give up single malt Scotch? > >>> > >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/24/dining/reviews/24wine.html?th&emc=th > >>> > >>> > >>> Larry Z > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leica Users Group. > >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leica Users Group. > >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >