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Subject: [Leica] A grab bag of comments- Guernica
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll Querol)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:56:55 +0100
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This is still more exact, thanks for the information. Yes, as far as I  
know the MOMA was initially reluctant but after they have fully  
cooperated, I think remember that the King of Spain has been too one  
of the decisive persons on the negotiation.

As Spanish and citizen of the world I modestly think that we can be  
very proud of this fact.

Saludos
Lluis


El 03/01/2010, a las 23:15, H. Ball Arche escribi?:

> "Picasso's "Guernica" was on display at New York's Museum of Modern  
> Artfor a number of years. It occupied a solo room near the wall sized
> mural of Monet's "Water Lillies." You could go from wartime chaos to
> tranquility in a few steps. Picasso refused to have Guernica  hung in
> Fascist Spain during WW2. I believe it was returned after his death."
>
>
>> From Wiki:
>
> As early as 1968, Franco had expressed an interest in having  
> Guernica return to Spain.[1] However, Picasso refused to allow this  
> until the Spanish people again enjoyed a republic. He later added  
> other conditions, such as the restoration of "public liberties and  
> democratic institutions". Picasso died in 1973. Franco, ten years  
> Picasso's junior, died two years later, in 1975. After Franco's  
> death, Spain was transformed into a democratic constitutional  
> monarchy, ratified by a new constitution in 1978. However, MOMA was  
> reluctant to give up one of their greatest treasures and argued that  
> a constitutional monarchy did not represent the republic that had  
> been stipulated in Picasso's will as a condition for the painting's  
> return. Under great pressure from a number of observers, MOMA  
> finally ceded the painting to Spain in 1981. The Spanish historian  
> Javier Tusell was one of the negotiators.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lawrence Zeitlin <lrzeitlin at gmail.com>
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 3:11:50 PM
> Subject: [Leica] A grab bag of comments
>
> A grab bag of comments about recent LUG posts.
>
> Mark,
> It would be tough to use the Graflex for photographing carrier
> landings if it was anything like the one I used in the early '50s.
> Disregarding the fact that you had to reverse your concept of left and
> right, it took about half a second for the mirror to flip up and the
> shutter to move across the film opening when taking a picture. And if
> you didn't have a lens with an auto diaphragm, it took longer. In that
> time the plane would have traveled almost 200 feet. The few sports
> photographers who used Graflex cameras to film baseball complained
> that they had to release the shutter before the pitcher threw the ball
> to get a shot of the batter swinging (or not).
>
> Lluis,
> Picasso's "Guernica" was on display at New York's Museum of Modern Art
> for a number of years. It occupied a solo room near the wall sized
> mural of Monet's "Water Lillies." You could go from wartime chaos to
> tranquility in a few steps. Picasso refused to have Guernica  hung in
> Fascist Spain during WW2. I believe it was returned after his death.
>
> Tina,
> I think my blood would boil at 13,000 feet. About ten years ago my
> wife and I contemplated a hut to hut X-C ski trip on the 10th Mountain
> Division trail in Colorado. Her brother was a member of that division
> and she always considered herself a better skier. We chickened out
> when we discovered that all the huts were above 11,000 feet and you
> had to ski the trail carrying 50 pounds of supplies. Although we might
> have tried if you were standing beside the trail handing out little
> bags of candies.
>
> A belated Happy New Year to everyone.
>
> Larry Z
>
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