Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/11/10

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Subject: [Leica] m9 review
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:49:10 +0000
References: <C71D1BB1.58386%mark@rabinergroup.com> <2B32D10C-CE25-485C-8D04-E9EABD6CDEB6@ameritech.net> <54DDC1C6-B319-49CD-8600-7F65643DF8AE@mac.com>

Sounds like it needs fixing. My M8 has never done this, in fact of all  
the things people have mentioned the only thing I have experienced is  
profound underexposure if I shoot immediately after switching on. It  
has happened twice.
Frank D

On 10 Nov, 2009, at 07:53, Tarek Charara wrote:

> Dante,
>
> I agree 100%. The M8 is slow in writing to the card in a sequence  
> and locks up very easily. Even worse, when the camera locks up, the  
> only way to unlock it is to take out the battery for a few seconds  
> resulting in the loss of (up to) 10 pictures. At least that's what  
> happens with my M8.
> I use the M for 95% of my work, so there is no digital alternative  
> for the time being. I bough a small flash, the 24D for the Leica and  
> noticed that sometimes the flash didn't trigger. I first thought it  
> was the flash unit, now I know it's the M8...
>
> The lock up problem and losing 10 pictures is a real PITA.
>
> All the best from the south of France!
>
> Tarek
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> Tarek Charara
> <http://www.pix-that-stimulate.com>
>
> NO ARCHIVE
>
>
> On 10 nov. 09, at 02:26, Dante Stella wrote:
>
>> Mark, this is not about raw speed - though I know that makes for a  
>> better straw-man.
>>
>> 1.   David Keenan is dead-on correct about the M8/M9 architecture,  
>> which has a long shutter lag (six times that of an M3 and double  
>> that of a D3), is slow to a second shot (should/when you need one),  
>> and can lock up fairly easily taking repeated shots, even without  
>> mashing down the shutter button on continuous.  I have years of  
>> experience with this on the M8 and agree with Keenan that  
>> unresponsiveness - particularly on a first shot - is inexcusable.   
>> This is even more the case where a camera allegedly is designed to  
>> capture some "decisive moment."
>>
>> 2.   Two things that didn't get mentioned (and hopefully these have  
>> not carried on to the M9) are (a) the tendency of the M8 to wildly  
>> overexpose if the shutter is pressed too quickly when the meter is  
>> "waking up" - apparently a bad habit carried over with the M7 meter  
>> - and (b) the tendency not to fire the flash at all if the shutter  
>> is tripped too quickly after the shutter is first pressed.  Then go  
>> to #1 above for the slow recovery from the resulting missed shot.
>>
>> If the M9 is in any way worse than an M8 in responsiveness, it's a  
>> fail.  I don't believe that a camera should have any ability to  
>> second-guess, ask for a "do-over," or be asleep on the job when I  
>> need it.
>>
>> The decision when and if to take a picture is not an exercise for a  
>> committee.
>>
>> Unless that committee is a committee of one.
>>
>> Me.
>>
>> Dante
>>
>> ____________
>> Dante Stella
>> http://www.dantestella.com
>
>
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] m9 review)
Message from dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella) ([Leica] m9 review)
Message from tcharara at mac.com (Tarek Charara) ([Leica] m9 review)