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Subject: [Leica] M9 reviewers drawn from the "unwashed masses"
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:03:10 +0000
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I agree, we differ in opinion!
I bet Leica sold less than 1 R camera for every 20 Ms, and I believe I  
am being conservative. Assuming the ratio stays the same, ie a non- 
auto focus digi R sold equally "well" 20x more of the development  
costs would have to be amortised per camera than on the already  
onerous M. (Canon make 250,000 of -one- of their EOS digital models  
per month against Leica 10,000 per year for Ms). You can not stay in  
business if you can not amortise your development costs. The M is  
already a bit expensive for many, an R would have to be much dearer to  
wash its face, maybe $25,000 is a bit of an exaggeration of a break  
even price for a digital R, but maybe not.
Frank D.

On 10 Nov, 2009, at 05:38, Frank Filippone wrote:

> I think we have a basic, and deeply different, point of view.
>
> I believe there is a big ( in Leica terms) market for a Digi-R.  Do  
> they
> have to develop it themselves?  No.  The camera must accept R mount  
> lenses,
> and be digital capture.
>
> Get someone else to do the R+D on one of their own Digi-bodies,  
> private
> brand the thing "Leica", and adapt the  mount to the R lenses.
>
> No AF
>
> This is not that hard......and it does not have to be priced at  
> $25,000.
>
> And now you have a new market for the world's best SLR  
> lenses......put them
> back into production......
>
> It costs a lot less to keep your current customers then it does to  
> get new
> customers......
>
> Frank Filippone
> red735i at earthlink.net
>
>
> But we -know- the R market is tiny compared even to the M market. The
> R8 almost bankrupted the company.
>
>
>
>
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Message from Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie) ([Leica] M9 reviewers drawn from the "unwashed masses")
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