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Subject: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread
From: h_arche at yahoo.com (H. Ball Arche)
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 14:21:28 -0800 (PST)
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er, in 7th grade we had a music teacher named Miss Pinder we called rednip.


----- Original Message ----
From: "tedgrant at shaw.ca" <tedgrant at shaw.ca>
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 4:02:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread

Given we are discussing teaching and teachers I wonder if any of you had 
nick names for some teachers? As in my high school, one was known as, 
"Basher Reid!"

We learned from fear in his class room, but you truly learned and remembered 
every word he said. :-) It wasn't this mamby pamby nonsense of today with 
the anti-discipline crowd! Fooling around and you were in for a solid smack 
on the side of the head.... or head banged against the desk top!  Therefore 
every second in his class it was totally committed learning, what he was 
saying, showing! And teaching!

And when he finished a lesson... HE ASKED QUESTIONS!!!  And you bloody well 
had better have the right answer! If not, you stayed after school until you 
answered any question he asked about that day's lessons! Some times he'd 
throw in a sneaker question from the day before. And you really needed the 
correct answer for that one. Didn't you do your homework?

A small example of how he "RULED!"
One day just outside his class room a student was fooling around in the hall 
trying to get inside his locker and close the door!  "Basher Reid" came out 
of his class, not a word spoken. Grabbed the kid, pushed him inside the 
locker, slammed the door, spun the lock so it couldn't be opened without the 
correct numbering. Walked back into class and continued.

Meanwhile everyone cleared out of the hallway leaving the student at the 
mercy of Basher Reid who eventually, a few hours later asked the student 
through the door what were the numbers, then he let him out with one 
question. "Do you think we will ever have to do this again?" The kid was 
crying and offered.... "No Sir!" Basher smiled and offered, "Now that's a 
good lesson learned today! Right?" The student shook his head to the 
affirmative! "Yes Sir!"

The bottom-line is........... we learned every second in his class, it was 
interesting, informative and he always left us anxious to get back the next 
day for more. And yes still in fear! Hey if you didn't fool around you 
didn't have a fear, screwing around and Bam! And it hurt! But you learned 
not to do it again! :-)

Today try and teach in this fashion, lets say when you have a student 
messing around and you gave him a good smack after you've politely asked for 
quiet. You'd be sued, fired and hung out to dry! The student & his parents 
would sue the school principal, teacher for discrimination and violence 
toward their sweet "smart ass" child! Who probably needed a few damn good 
smacks at home for behavior in any event!

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeshhhhhhhh you know I'm one of those old guys who believes one 
good smack deserves another if you still don't behave! It's called 
discipline! And respect!

the old doc guy! :-)







----- Original Message ----- From: "Philippe Amard" <philippe.amard at 
sfr.fr>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] the ultimate digest Leica criticism thread


> in that case, s/he's late, as usual ;-)
> phx
> 
> 
> George Lottermoser wrote:
> 
>> and
>> 
>> "when the student is ready
>> a teacher appears."
>> 
>> ;~)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> George Lottermoser
>> george at imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com
>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:01 PM, Philippe Amard wrote:
>> 
>>> 'You can't teach anyone anything, you may only place them in a
>>> position where they may learn;'
>> 
>> 
>> 
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